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    </span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Section 8,)

    Dictionary.com is incorrect. Read Berkman or Marx, and then tell me if that&#39;s true.
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    Marx and Berkman are biased. Dictionary.com is at least moderate. I might as well read Adolf Hitler&#39;s Mein Kampf&#33;


    </span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Section 8,)

    You are forced to work. If you don&#39;t work you die, how is that freedom.
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    You&#39;re perfectly right&#33;

    If nobody in society works, then where will our food, water, televisions, and computers come from?


    However, if Communism ensures I get fed, sheltered, and freedom without me having to work at all, then I&#39;ll be too happy to be a Communist&#33; But I want good food, not dried bread and medieval ale.

    Ideological loyalty is the act of giving your soul to a vague concept, to be manipulated by people smarter than you.

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    </span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by
    Marx and Berkman are biased. Dictionary.com is at least moderate. I might as well read Adolf Hitler&#39;s Mein Kampf&#33;<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>

    Ideas aren&#39;t biased. Marx and Berkman created two different variants of communism, and dictionary.com took public opinion and decided that was what socialism means. This contradicts both Marx and Berkmans ideas on communism.


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    After all, it&#39;s like asking Pol Pot what "Human Rights" are. You&#39;re not going to get the Geneva convention out of him.

    . . . whenever any government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute a new government, laying its foundations on such principles and organizing its powers in such forms as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.

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    </span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (castille,)
    Marx and Berkman are biased. Dictionary.com is at least moderate. I might as well read Adolf Hitler&#39;s Mein Kampf&#33;<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>




    No, Marx is certainly not biased, he is definitive. His works were not simply diatribes, but scientific and economic analysis as well as a political doctrine that was based upon the science.

    Have you read Marx properly at all anyway? Not for a definition, but for an understanding?

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