Guess I should have stopped when I said I would, before you said something is debateable, then that it is an "accepted truth".That's accepted mathematical truth.
Guess I should have stopped when I said I would, before you said something is debateable, then that it is an "accepted truth".That's accepted mathematical truth.
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The truth is the issue here.Quote by: Castle
Your claim that .9r = 1 is no more true than .999999999999 = 1
Adding more 9's only makes it closer to 1...... always falling short.
It is either approximatly 1 or exactly 1.
It is impossible to be both.
I can prove .9∞ ╪ 1; By adding .0∞1 to .9∞ you get 1
If .9∞ did in fact = 1, then if you added .0∞1 and 1 you would get 1.0∞1
Which I think we can all agree is more than 1
The above is response to this below....
Your source was supposed to support your claim that 0.9r could convert to 1 (grow into a 1. Transcend into wholeness. Become one in the universe) without addition.
That support is not there. You sent me on a wild goose chase. You owe ME an apology!
Last edited by gr8fuldaniel; 1st December 2006 at 05:01 PM. Reason: Only to fix quote boxes
Accepted truths can be debateable. It is an accepted truth that we exist, but that is most certainly debateable. It is an accepted truth that evolution is true, but that it also debateable. Etc. Point being: that which is an accepted truth can still be debated.
At infinity, the difference between 1 and .9999r is infinitely small. By definition it is too small to qauntify. If you want to consider an infinitely small number to be not equal to zero, that is up to you. Plot teh curve and integrate it and the area under it will be one.
But you don't need calculus. If I slice a pie into thirds and add one third plus one third plus one third, I have one whole pie. Very simple. 1/3 +1/3+ 1/3 = 1
Express it as a fraction however and it is equals .33r +.33r +.33r =.99r
So is 1/3 + 1/3 + 1/3 = 1 or .999r? The answer is yes.
Rick
"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." Sinclair Lewis
Then why is it relevant that I amAccepted truths can be debateable. It is an accepted truth that we exist, but that is most certainly debateable. It is an accepted truth that evolution is true, but that it also debateable. Etc. Point being: that which is an accepted truth can still be debated.?going against accepted mathematical theory by denying infinity
.3r is only repeating because 1/3 can't be precisely expressed in decimal form.Express it as a fraction however and it is equals .33r +.33r +.33r =.99r
Eh, fair enough; it's not.
I am fine with rounding off to solve. Just admit it when you do.
Are finitely small particles like an atom and a quark and a neutron inconsequential?
As Yasa's cousin saidWho decides. Thats why rounding off is prolly going to be ok. Just be honest about it. Castles honesty is in jeopardy here. Its a molecular untruth. But an untruth nontheless.how small is insignigicant?
OK Dan, what does 1/3 + 1/3 + 1/3 equal?
What does .333R + .333R + .333R equal?
Rick
"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." Sinclair Lewis
.3r can never equal 1/3. That is why there are an infinite number of 3's. It is not exact, proven by the fact that if you treat .3r and 1/3 interchangeably, .9r would equal 1.
We will never know, it is ever moving into eternity.
It wont hold still so we can add it.
The best we can do is round it off at .999RWhat does .333R + .333R + .333R equal?
Edit to add:
Which can also be rounded off.
No sweat.
.999R ≈ 1 (≈ means approximately)
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