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    Does life itself really matter?

    A couple of question on my mind, Does life realy matter to anybody? Do you care what lives or dies in this world? Have we all forgot what we are here for? what do you think life was given to use for? Do you think your life means anything? Do you think life lasts for ever? Do you think life ends the day you die? If life does not end when you die, what do you think is next in your life?
    what do you as a person think life was created for? What do you think life is?.


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    Life matters more to me than death. I was obviously born, and I will take advantage of that to it's fullest until I die.

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    Dreamer, your questions are ones that have occupied the thoughts of theologians and philosophers for centuries.
    I don't believe there is any purpose to life since I believe life occurs on this planet simply because it can. Atmosphere forms when the conditions are absolutely right, as does life as we know it. That does not mean that each of us can't supply our own reason for our existence should we feel we need one.
    I don't believe there is any overall purpose to my life, but daily I develop reasons to live that day.
    Once I die, th...th...that's all, folks.



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    Be yourself, an individual. Do what you want and act the way the want. Let not the eyes and ears of the world hold you back. Be respectful, considerate and open minded. Appreciate what you have and more importantly, the infinite oppurtunities you have. Pursue your goals and find your place in this world.
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    Quote Quote by: Dreamer
    Does life realy matter to anybody?
    Life doesn't matter to the individual in question since, after losing it, he can't care about it. It does however matter to those associated with him, in that they would suffer as a result of his death.

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    Do you care what lives or dies in this world?
    Not in the slightest, unless they are in some way affiliated with me.

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    Have we all forgot what we are here for?
    I don't think we have forgotten; I think we are misguided. Misguided in thinking that we are here for any purpose at all.

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    what do you think life was given to use for?
    It wasn't. It's just how things worked out.

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    Do you think your life means anything?
    Not to me. I don't care if I lose it. However, it does (hopefully) mean something to those I care about.

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    Do you think life lasts for ever?
    Nope. I think it ends when brain activity stops.

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    Do you think life ends the day you die?
    Yah.

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    If life does not end when you die, what do you think is next in your life?
    N/A

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    what do you as a person think life was created for?
    It wasn't.

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    What do you think life is?.
    A living organism is something which undergoes metabolism, possesses a capacity to grow, responds to stimuli, reproduces and, through natural selection, adapts in succeeding generations. There are of course some exceptions to this rule, such as viruses.

    A broader definition of life is anything containing nucleic acids, with the ability to replicate the nucleic acid molecules.


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    Life matters as it serves Jesus' purpose

    Quote Quote by: dreamer View Post
    A couple of question on my mind, Does life realy matter to anybody? Do you care what lives or dies in this world? Have we all forgot what we are here for? what do you think life was given to use for? Do you think your life means anything? Do you think life lasts for ever? Do you think life ends the day you die? If life does not end when you die, what do you think is next in your life?
    what do you as a person think life was created for? What do you think life is?.
    We are here. God put us here. He has a purpose for us and has revealed it in His word. We are to teach everyone who does not know Jesus Christ about Jesus Christ. We are to share with them the joy and the peace which comes through a close, personal relationship with our Savior and Lord so that they, too, might be saved. We are a world in rebellion. We are opposed to God while in the flesh. He has provided us with a means of escape, but that teaching runs contrary to that which we see and feel in the flesh.

    Our purpose is to serve and worship God. That is all of our purpose, and it is the mission of those of us who have come to know Jesus that we should, while alive here in the flesh, spread the word to as many as will hear. It is not our responsibility to make them believe, only to spread the word.


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    Does your life matter to you?

    If it did not, then you would not take actions to stay alive.

    The fact that you are alive is evidence that you have taken steps to stay alive, which is evidence that your life does matter to you.

    The fact that you ask questions about what is important is evidence that some things are important to you.

    Why? I would say because they enhance your life.

    If you consider that (a) you have only one life to live and (b) that you *should* strive for a life of long-term happiness (because, what's the alternative?), then these questions are either answered or not imporant.

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    Life matters for a purpose

    Quote Quote by: zynner View Post
    Does your life matter to you?

    If it did not, then you would not take actions to stay alive.
    You seem to enjoy breaking things up into individual, component arguments, rather than taking the philosophy and applying it in a blanket manner to address the greater sum or whole. But I will answer your questions:

    God put within us the desire to stay alive. But to the true Christian, the desire is greater to be with the Lord, and therefore to be absent from this body (dead). However, we know that we cannot serve Him to reach others who are lost when we are gone, except possibly in our memory and the memory of that which we did or held to (belief-wise) while here. We choose voluntarily, therefore, to live. We will stand for His truth in all situations, up to and including death. But we would prefer to live because we can reach souls and have the opportunity to affect their lives by His teachings.

    The fact that you are alive is evidence that you have taken steps to stay alive, which is evidence that your life does matter to you.

    The fact that you ask questions about what is important is evidence that some things are important to you.

    Why? I would say because they enhance your life.

    If you consider that (a) you have only one life to live and (b) that you *should* strive for a life of long-term happiness (because, what's the alternative?), then these questions are either answered or not imporant.

    ~ zynner
    Is your purpose here to bring up questions for the sake of bringing up questions? You ask many to which there are, undboutedly, a wide array of personal responses.

    We have life. We are here in the flesh. It is as I have written above.

    Last edited by RickHodgin; 28th October 2006 at 05:46 PM. Reason: Fixed improper quoting

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    Are you implying that if you werent trying to save god forsaken 'atheists' like me then you would kill yourself? Gosh, im flattered, what a generous notion. But Im afraid, im my case, its never gonna happen.

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    Quote Quote by: foxmuldr View Post
    You seem to enjoy breaking things up into individual, component arguments, rather than taking the philosophy and applying it in a blanket manner to address the greater sum or whole.
    That's because I like to get at the real issues.

    Most discussions are superficial, in that they are discussions about opinions which are derived from deeper beliefs. I like to dig down and get at those deeper beliefs and understand why someone believes what they do, not just what they say they believe on the surface.

    That's why I like to isolate points people make, so they know I am not addressing their entire post, but that one particular thought (which is usually their primary beliefs, but not always).

    God put within us the desire to stay alive.
    Since there is no god, you really do not have any evidence for this. It is just made up stuff that you have made a choice to believe. And you do that because you think it will give you long-term happiness, which is my point.

    Is your purpose here to bring up questions for the sake of bringing up questions?
    Nope. It's to see how people think. And maybe I'll learn something along the way; maybe others will. The overall process is kinda fun sometimes, as long as it's not done all the time, and that tends to help bring me my own brand of long-term happiness.

    We both have the same goal: a life long-term happiness. We just choose different paths.

    ~ zynner


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    foxmuldr --

    One other point: You view your own life as a means to somebody ELSE'S end. Either you are trying to please your god or you are trying to covert others to your way of beliefs. You view your life as good or not based on someone other than yourself.

    This is one of the primary problems with religion.

    Shouldn't your life be for YOUR own benefit?

    I think it should, since you are the one who must take the actions (or not) and you are really the only one who can benefit.

    ~ zynner


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    I sure hope so, because I am having a blast. If I find out it was just a dream I am going to be pissed.


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