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[Mia]

Commonsense, it might help you to pick up a book every now and then or listen to or watch something that tells you something about the people of which you speak BESIDES the biased CRAP you've obviously only been exposed to.

The fanatics KILL OTHER MUSLIMS. It has nothing to do with being American or Christian or anything else.

Look how many bombings occur in Muslim countries. Far more than in the US.

The fanatics will kill someone for using a different brand of hair gel than they do. If you use dippity-do you are an infidel, even if you are a Moslem.

It has nothing to do with Islam and the vast majority of Arabs, in and out of the United States, have nothing to do with it either.

I am all for getting the fanatics out. No one will give me an answer as to why we let them IN. Their home countries know they are terrorists - that's why they got booted out.

Instead of directing yoru fear and hatred to Arab-Americans who hate these fanatics as much as you do, ask your government why we insist on continuing to emply terrorists to do our dirty work for them, putting all of us at risk in the process?

[commonsense]

Quote: Mia

I am all for getting the fanatics out. No one will give me an answer as to why we let them IN. Their home countries know they are terrorists - that's why they got booted out.

Its impossible to tell, that's why there must be an indefinite moratorium on immigration from the entire Middle East

There is no hate or fear in my post or in my heart.
I advocate the moratorium and the boycott out of sheer logic and the continued preservation of the very system that could one day again be the bastion of opportunity it has been to the enlightened middle easterners who came here. It is a an unfortunate but necessary response TO the greatest act of hate, the indiscriminate violence of terrorism.

[Suburbanite]

commonsense we have a strong rule against insulting people in general, calling someone a rag-head is not permissible. End of story.

[lostkiwi]

Wow, never have I seen such diametrical opposition between a post and it's authors name!

911 was not funded from within this country. The money to fund this operation came from the Middle East.

911 was not conceived by people in this country. The idea came from terrorists raised in the Middle East and wrapped in a cloak of Muslem fundamentalism.

911 was not carried out by people raised here. But rather people living here for a short amount of time in order to carry out their mission.

Your statements, commonsense, are racist. You are grouping all Arabs together in order to lay blame for 911 on all of them, rather than the individuals who carried out this heinous act. You are asking for all Arabs, many of whom love America and are productive citizens here, to pay the price for the crimes of a malicious few.

That is racism.

Buy the way, when do you plan on getting rid of your car? If you are truly willing to start a boycott I think the Oil and all of its byproducts is a natural place to start.

[commonsense]

VXerick,
You're right on the money in much of your post, but you fell short of saying "should be" or "used to be" to the part about the U.S. govt BEING the people, as you did elsewhere.

Also, I never mentioned drug abuse in my post. You "accused" me of being a lawyer (joke intended)--- just as you refer to our founding principles being long forgotten and "usurped" by elitists, you sound pretty elitist yourself when you broadly paint drug users and sellers as a detriment to society.
Governmental actions to discourage this traditional, practically natural human pursuit (anthropologically speaking) create far greater sociological ills, --including ones not immediately recognizable-- than does sticking to our philosophical founding principles of the government's (sociological)role being nothing more than the preservation of individual rights.
While lawyers tend to be rabidly self-serving and often in a moral sense deserve much of the derision they receive, I take your suspicion that I may be one as a compliment, given the level of erudition the profession is presumed to demand.
It may interest you that I regularly partake in any number of illicit drugs, am not addicted, and apparently sufficiently impressed you to hopefully consider that I and many like me are no detriment to society.

[commonsense]

Well Kiwi, "lost" certainly DOES well describe your condition, intellectually, at least.

As per my post, you do not understand the definition of racism, only the blanket term American socialists and self-serving politicians exploit to denounce their reasoned opposition.

I am of middle-eastern decent.

[Mia]

Originally posted by commonsense,
Well Kiwi, "lost" certainly DOES well describe your condition, intellectually, at least.

As per my post, you do not understand the definition of racism, only the blanket term American socialists and self-serving politicians exploit to denounce their reasoned opposition.

I am of middle-eastern decent.

Where are you from?

[Mia]

Yes, you can tell the difference. Their home countries can, so why can't we?

You are failing to address the point that we let them in here for a reason. We want to use them against ME regimes we don't like.

In the 70's and 80's the MB in Syria committed terrorist acts against the government with US weapons.

[PatrickHenry]

Originally posted by commonsense,

I am of middle-eastern decent.

Are you a Jew or a Phalangist? Obviously not an Arab....

[Mia]

That was my next question!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He could still be Arab but it doesn't sound like he's Muslim.

[StoneWT]

commonsense,

It wasn't a compliment. The poster was commenting on the nonsense you posted. Weasel words, bad logic, etc.

Alot of racists try to gussy up their bilge with high-falutin' lawyerly talk.

comm(unist)(n)onsense: PEACEABLY BOYCOTT ALL MOHAMMEDANS NOW!!!!!

:rolleyes:

[commonsense]

Mia, again, you are saying "we"

I'm separating what our leaders do for their own ends, and what the common people will inevitably undertake doing to save themselves.

I was born on American soil and there is no greater blessing. Well maybe to be Swiss...They are in key ways, more Libertarian than the best of us are, of course differences also.

My parents were immigrants who risked their lives to come here many times over.
I am part Arab, racially, but not a Mohammedan. This is only relevant because so many of you who care to know are still laboring under a misconception of what it means to be racist.

A staunch believer, rather an honest observer, of the transcendental promise that our nation's founding principles hold for the future of all mankind.