2004 will be a year of attacks on America

[jose]

Here in spain the people i've spoken to don't think spain has capitulated to terrorists{ people who use terror to influence public opinion} but rather the government has been changed to reflect public opinion against what 90% of the people saw as an illigal and unjust war on the people of Iraq organized by the neocons {remember saddam hussain was sending $25,000 to the familys of suicide bombers} to advance Israels goals in the region and george bushs reward was the OIL
to keep the people of america fearful you have constant alerts orange, yellow ETC i won't call you brainwashed because your here, at least i hope your here to find out the truth lets keep the debate going

[Mia]

Jose, the problem is that it was done right after the attack, making it look like it was in response to it.

I thought he should have help off on announcing he'd be withdrawing the troops to avoid such a perception.

I fear you will have more because they believe they got their way on that one.

[Zeebadee]

Every innocent citizen that is killed by U.S. actions in Iraq is going to generate an entire family of people that will resent and oppose us as best they can. Bush may succeed in beating down any semblance of organized resistance by the overwhelming force of arms at his disposal, but we will be occupying a nation that hates us by the time he's done. Iraq will therefore be a very controlled society, with very limited freedoms available to it's citizens. What better incentive is there to attack here in the U.S., where freedom of movement (at least for now) is easily available to anyone that walks north from Mexico?? Of course, this will be used for reasons to further limit the rights we have here. As bad as Patriot I and II will be, you better start getting ready for Patriot III.

[GreatWyrm of Babylon]

Originally posted by Zeebadee,
Every innocent citizen that is killed by U.S. actions in Iraq is going to generate an entire family of people that will resent and oppose us as best they can.

Sadam killed too many innocents for that claim to be believable, or was it just dandy for him?

[Zeebadee]

I realize that some contributors in here think that if you oppose Bush, you must be an admirer of saddam. Similar, I guess, to the belief that if you disagree with ANY Bush policies, you must be a liberal leftist democrat that adores Kerry.

Do you think it might be possible that the average Iraqi citizen could actually hate BOTH saddam and the U.S.?? Do you really think that Iraqi families are going to be happy that we are doing the killing instead of saddam??

[Mia]

Patriot act X won't do any good - it's not really aimed at terrorists. If it were, why do we let so many come into the country to begin with?

The Muslim Brotherhood, a known fundamentalist terror group, has been run out of Egypt, Syria, Jordan, and other Arab nations. But we give them cover here.

Why is that?

[Impenitent]

because we have too many members of the party of the impeached liar entrenched in the bureaucracy... they won't let us defend our borders either...

[Mia]

Zeebadee, you are exactly right. They hate Saddam AND the US. We need to ask Arab nations to come in to keep the peace.

[Mia]

Originally posted by Impenitent,
because we have too many members of the party of the impeached liar entrenched in the bureaucracy... they won't let us defend our borders either...

That's weird. "They" are in the minority in Congress. "They" are outmatched further by a Republican President. Even if you were right, that wouldn't make sense that "they" would restrict citizens' rights but not foreigners.

[Zeebadee]

Originally posted by Impenitent,
because we have too many members of the party of the impeached liar entrenched in the bureaucracy... they won't let us defend our borders either...

This is simply ridiculous! Bush has been pushing amnesty programs since the day he came into office. A quick Google will show multiple programs, continuing right up to today. Here's a handy one, check it out:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,109026,00.html

[VXerick]

Originally posted by Mia,
Patriot act X won't do any good - it's not really aimed at terrorists. If it were, why do we let so many come into the country to begin with?

The Muslim Brotherhood, a known fundamentalist terror group, has been run out of Egypt, Syria, Jordan, and other Arab nations. But we give them cover here.

Why is that?

Because this is a free country. It's a free country because our military has fought and died in countless wars to keep it free.

[PatrickHenry]

Originally posted by VXerick,
Because this is a free country. It's a free country because our military has fought and died in countless wars to keep it free.

How much tax do you pay? You call it free? Do more people need to wash it in blood? If so, the terrorists from Langley are up to the task.

President AWOL's henchmen can arrange more blood in keeping with his blood oath in the Skull and Bones Death Cult.