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Old Mar 30, 2004, 07:20 pm   #1 (permalink) (top)
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I do research into sustainable development. The world is easy to rescue. First of all most current politicians are dictators. Money is the route of all evil OR is it the root to the tree of life. I believe in democracy and nothing is more democratice than spending your money on what you want to buy. I only buy items that are good for the planet and I sometimes have to buy inorganic plastic things because the petroleum companies have bribed their way into existance at the moment - hello Bush and Blair you murdering fools! I have to go to court every now and then and get told it is illegal to present evidence (I live in England, Shepton Mallet, Somerset), but hey, in my self there is a democracy and I am using my power to focus on saving the planet by not purchasing products that screw things up i.e. anything that is inorganic. There are many web sites out there, but are there any more you can tell me about?
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Old Mar 31, 2004, 07:58 pm   #2 (permalink) (top)
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Uh duane, plastic is an organic product. It is a petroleum derivative which is the product of squished organic material. Look at the chemical composition of plastics, it is a carbohydrate aka organic compound.
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Old Apr 1, 2004, 10:37 am   #3 (permalink) (top)
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Old Apr 5, 2004, 08:37 am   #4 (permalink) (top)
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I have the solution. we should depopulate the planet completely of any living species except ourselves while retaining a decent genetic database of their DNA. After people have lived without animals for a while they might change their minds about how valuble they are.
Got to kill em all off to save em thats the only way a lot of people are going to listen.


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Old Apr 5, 2004, 11:21 am   #5 (permalink) (top)
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The world is easy to rescue theorically. Are inhabitants ready to rescue it though?


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Old Apr 6, 2004, 06:43 pm   #6 (permalink) (top)
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Dave654. Any chemical compound that involves the false cohesion of molecules through the processes of fractional distillation i.e heating products to thousands of degrees so that they are chemically different and thus biodegrade slower than the natural environment can recycle it, are inorganic.

School science is owned by the banks and petroleum firms. They would have you believe that compounds derived from natural crude oil that are chemically changed not to biodegrade is still organic. But that is a farce and you have fallen for it. So according to your teaching you should fill the world with plastic and wait thousands of years for it to become consumable by a life form again. Plastic has a slow degradable rate and there are faster ones in existance. But you are not told about these and your education is rigged to fool the nieve.
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Old Apr 6, 2004, 06:47 pm   #7 (permalink) (top)
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Besides, what was wrong with grease proof paper, glass bottles and plastic made from hemp? These you are not told about and that is because you are not allowed to be told about them on a regular basis.
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Old Apr 7, 2004, 06:09 am   #8 (permalink) (top)
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Faster degrading plastics costs, usually about ten times more than "normal" ones, at least thats what I was taught in Environmental chemistry.


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Old Apr 7, 2004, 09:20 am   #9 (permalink) (top)
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the easiest way to reduce human intervention on the planet is to remove the humans... we'll remove the environmentalists first...


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Old Apr 7, 2004, 03:33 pm   #10 (permalink) (top)
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Or we remove the top percent that owns most of the world's wealth and redistribute so that everyone can have a few hours of happiness AND then wipe out the whole population.


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Old Apr 7, 2004, 06:15 pm   #11 (permalink) (top)
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At this point I'm not even that sure that this planet needs any saving, and I'm most certain that any "rescue operation" wouldn't be mounted by humans. I highly doubt that buying biodegradeable milk jugs and waving them about your head screaming bloody murder will contribute to the environment; all that fidgeting around you'd be doing might kill off a few earthworms in the process, and we certainly don't want to damage nature's fertilizer factories. In any case, wiping humans out won't do any good but continuing down the same path won't either. Although scientists now aren't even sure if things like global warming are byproducts of industrialization or if they're some sort of geo-atmospheric cycles. I'm sure humans have contributed to mucking up the Earth, but I'm sure if we become too much of an impediment to nature something or other will snuff us out. Our own arrogance is sometimes the reason we don't change our ways.
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Old Apr 7, 2004, 08:23 pm   #12 (permalink) (top)
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Duane, if it's so easy to rescue the world, perhaps you should ask yourself why it hasn't been rescued already.
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Old Apr 7, 2004, 08:36 pm   #13 (permalink) (top)
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I like Duane's response. Hemp is the solution to everything.


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Old Apr 10, 2004, 06:32 pm   #14 (permalink) (top)
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Duane, I'm not going to argue organic/inorganic with you since it is no longer necessary for plastics to be burried in land fills to biodegrade. The Thermal Depolymerization process is now online and plants are being built as we speak. These plant can accept any organic compounds, including plastic, and by accelerating the natural processes of decomposition, generate a variety of new products. www.changingworldtech.com
We can now start digging up all those nasty landfills and start making useful products out of our trash. This is better than recycling.
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Old Apr 16, 2004, 10:24 am   #15 (permalink) (top)
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</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Pooeypants,)
Or we remove the top percent that owns most of the world's wealth and redistribute so that everyone can have a few hours of happiness AND then wipe out the whole population.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>

So you want us to execute all the achievers?

Cool, we should start with intellectual achievers first, since they never contribute anything to society.


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Old Apr 16, 2004, 06:00 pm   #16 (permalink) (top)
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</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (castille,)
</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Pooeypants,)
Or we remove the top percent that owns most of the world's wealth and redistribute so that everyone can have a few hours of happiness AND then wipe out the whole population.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>
So you want us to execute all the achievers?
Cool, we should start with intellectual achievers first, since they never contribute anything to society.
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I do believe you're a best when it comes being an achiever of intellect, please step up. :rolleyes:

On the other hand, you said we should rid the world of all humans, thus you want the same thing that I had suggested.


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Old Apr 16, 2004, 06:12 pm   #17 (permalink) (top)
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