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m5lange1 · Feb 24, 2004, 09:12 am

As the yin to the "best invention" yang.

My vote (even worse than the A-Bomb) is the automatic answering machine. Give me the time when if a business wanted you as a customer they had to answer the phone.

Worse still is if you have to call some beaurocrat. I am waiting for the statistic of how long the average person spends "on hold" during their lifetime. :)

Feb 24, 2004, 09:27 am

The worst human invention must be Government.. hmm or maybe religion.. :)

NotScientific · Feb 24, 2004, 09:41 am

Drugs for sure!!! You which drugs I mean.

Impenitent · Feb 24, 2004, 09:44 am

ruiner · Feb 24, 2004, 10:28 am

The A Bomb was a great invention. It has preserved peace between superpowers for the last 40 years

castille · Feb 25, 2004, 08:27 am

The television. It turned Americans, once known for their pioneering spirit, into a nation of slobs.

Also, "mind diseases" are the worst invention of humanity. If a kid breaks a vase, just say "I'm a victim mummy" and she'll hug you.

**Pooeypants** · Feb 25, 2004, 08:34 am

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (ruiner,)
The A Bomb was a great invention. It has preserved peace between superpowers for the last 40 years<hr size="1" /></blockquote>
I'd say it was simulataneously the greatest invention and the worst.

ruiner · Feb 25, 2004, 01:55 pm

certainly is the funniest

RebelWithanAK · Feb 25, 2004, 08:10 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (ruiner,)
The A Bomb was a great invention. It has preserved peace between superpowers for the last 40 years<hr size="1" /></blockquote>Sure, it kept people safe. If those people weren't Japanese.

ruiner · Feb 26, 2004, 11:40 am

no doubt more japanese people would have died if the abomb hadn't been invented

RebelWithanAK · Feb 26, 2004, 11:45 am

But it's kinda hard to distinguish the non-combantants under the nuclear fire, eh?

**Pooeypants** · Feb 26, 2004, 12:54 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (ruiner,)
no doubt more japanese people would have died if the abomb hadn't been invented<hr size="1" /></blockquote>
Was agent orange good to go back then?

antayla · Feb 26, 2004, 01:33 pm

Even the A-bomb has its uses...
Worst invention, hmm... something useless, harmful and annoying... rap music? christmas tree tinsel (gawds that stuff gets everywhere) ummm... y'know, I think every invention has its place...

shunyadragon · Feb 26, 2004, 07:28 pm

In China it is the Japanese invention of karioke or KTV as it is called.

Fire and money have caused a lot of trouble since they were invented.

Mar 10, 2004, 09:32 pm

There's no such thing as a bad invention. The qualitative label "bad" is reserved for how the invention is used.

castille · Mar 11, 2004, 09:22 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (RebelWithanAK,)
<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (ruiner,)
The A Bomb was a great invention. It has preserved peace between superpowers for the last 40 years<hr size="1" /></blockquote>Sure, it kept people safe. If those people weren't Japanese.<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

Well those Japanese killed 20 million Chinese (civilians), so its sort of payback in a way. And the Japanese still worship their war criminals (most were never put on trial), thus in China many people still worship the bombings of Japan.

Samildanach · Mar 12, 2004, 05:19 am

Still trying to justify hideous crimes with other hideous crimes I see....it doesn't work that way Castille. You cannot JUSTIFY injustices with further injustices.

An injustice is wrong to be sure but to commit another injustice does not solve the problem or make it better in any way. It just compounds and escalates the problem even further.

You can't fight fire with fire.

Suburbanite · Mar 12, 2004, 08:27 pm

I think the invention of a "liberal media" is one of the worst.

**Pooeypants** · Mar 13, 2004, 05:00 am

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (castille,)

Well those Japanese killed 20 million Chinese (civilians), so its sort of payback in a way. And the Japanese still worship their war criminals (most were never put on trial), thus in China many people still worship the bombings of Japan.<hr size="1" /></blockquote>
The Americans killed at least 2 million Vietnamese during the genocide in the 60's and 70's (lord knows which were actually fighting in the warfare...) does that mean Vietnam are long overdue for payback?

Write Winger · Mar 14, 2004, 10:22 pm

1st Communism
2nd Socialism
3rd Facism
4th Liberalism
5th Cell Phones

Feb 24, 2004, 09:12 am	#1 (permalink) (top)
m5lange1 Igneous Magma Posts: 649	As the yin to the "best invention" yang. My vote (even worse than the A-Bomb) is the automatic answering machine. Give me the time when if a business wanted you as a customer they had to answer the phone. Worse still is if you have to call some beaurocrat. I am waiting for the statistic of how long the average person spends "on hold" during their lifetime. :) Protester against the culture war!!!!

Feb 24, 2004, 09:41 am	#3 (permalink) (top)
NotScientific Molten Ash Location: Mauritius Posts: 35	Drugs for sure!!! You which drugs I mean. I'm Columnist here at Volconvo.com and also at BackWash.com. Check my columns in the Science forum then.

Feb 24, 2004, 09:44 am	#4 (permalink) (top)
Impenitent Hot Lava Posts: 1,859	pity "I really like this jacket, but the sleeves are much too long..." insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results...

Feb 25, 2004, 08:27 am	#6 (permalink) (top)
castille Citizen #21521 Posts: 2,599	The television. It turned Americans, once known for their pioneering spirit, into a nation of slobs. Also, "mind diseases" are the worst invention of humanity. If a kid breaks a vase, just say "I'm a victim mummy" and she'll hug you. Ideological loyalty is the act of giving your soul to a vague concept, to be manipulated by people smarter than you.

Feb 25, 2004, 08:34 am	#7 (permalink) (top)
Pooeypants Neo Moderator Location: England Posts: 5,467	</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (ruiner,) The A Bomb was a great invention. It has preserved peace between superpowers for the last 40 years<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> I'd say it was simulataneously the greatest invention and the worst. War is Peace Freedom is Slavery Ignorance is strength Harness the power of Ingsoc, then you can capture someone killed the year before

Feb 24, 2004, 09:27 am	#2 (permalink) (top)
Lightbearer Guest Posts: n/a	The worst human invention must be Government.. hmm or maybe religion.. :)

Feb 24, 2004, 10:28 am	#5 (permalink) (top)
ruiner Igneous Magma Posts: 180	The A Bomb was a great invention. It has preserved peace between superpowers for the last 40 years

Feb 25, 2004, 01:55 pm	#8 (permalink) (top)
ruiner Igneous Magma Posts: 180	certainly is the funniest

Feb 25, 2004, 08:10 pm	#9 (permalink) (top)
RebelWithanAK Igneous Magma Location: New York City Posts: 739	</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (ruiner,) The A Bomb was a great invention. It has preserved peace between superpowers for the last 40 years<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>Sure, it kept people safe. If those people weren't Japanese. . . . whenever any government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute a new government, laying its foundations on such principles and organizing its powers in such forms as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.

Feb 26, 2004, 11:40 am	#10 (permalink) (top)
ruiner Igneous Magma Posts: 180	no doubt more japanese people would have died if the abomb hadn't been invented

Feb 26, 2004, 11:45 am	#11 (permalink) (top)
RebelWithanAK Igneous Magma Location: New York City Posts: 739	But it's kinda hard to distinguish the non-combantants under the nuclear fire, eh? . . . whenever any government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute a new government, laying its foundations on such principles and organizing its powers in such forms as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.

Feb 26, 2004, 12:54 pm	#12 (permalink) (top)
Pooeypants Neo Moderator Location: England Posts: 5,467	</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (ruiner,) no doubt more japanese people would have died if the abomb hadn't been invented<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> Was agent orange good to go back then? War is Peace Freedom is Slavery Ignorance is strength Harness the power of Ingsoc, then you can capture someone killed the year before

Feb 26, 2004, 01:33 pm	#13 (permalink) (top)
antayla Molten Ash Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 56	Even the A-bomb has its uses... Worst invention, hmm... something useless, harmful and annoying... rap music? christmas tree tinsel (gawds that stuff gets everywhere) ummm... y'know, I think every invention has its place... Member of the Free State Project. http://www.freestateproject.com

Feb 26, 2004, 07:28 pm	#14 (permalink) (top)
shunyadragon Hot Lava Location: Hillsborough, NC Posts: 940	In China it is the Japanese invention of karioke or KTV as it is called. Fire and money have caused a lot of trouble since they were invented. The empty cup contains the most Frank A Doonan Turn weapons into peace and friendship with gifts of jade-silk www.shunyadragon.com I do not know, therefore I think . . .

Mar 10, 2004, 09:32 pm	#15 (permalink) (top)
dave654 Guest Posts: n/a	There's no such thing as a bad invention. The qualitative label "bad" is reserved for how the invention is used.

Mar 11, 2004, 09:22 pm	#16 (permalink) (top)
castille Citizen #21521 Posts: 2,599	</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (RebelWithanAK,) </span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (ruiner,) The A Bomb was a great invention. It has preserved peace between superpowers for the last 40 years<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>Sure, it kept people safe. If those people weren't Japanese.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> Well those Japanese killed 20 million Chinese (civilians), so its sort of payback in a way. And the Japanese still worship their war criminals (most were never put on trial), thus in China many people still worship the bombings of Japan. Ideological loyalty is the act of giving your soul to a vague concept, to be manipulated by people smarter than you.

Mar 12, 2004, 05:19 am	#17 (permalink) (top)
Samildanach Pragmatist Location: UK London Posts: 1,979	Still trying to justify hideous crimes with other hideous crimes I see....it doesn't work that way Castille. You cannot JUSTIFY injustices with further injustices. An injustice is wrong to be sure but to commit another injustice does not solve the problem or make it better in any way. It just compounds and escalates the problem even further. You can't fight fire with fire. I wouldn't recommend sex, drugs and insanity for everyone, but its always worked for me. Never think that war, no matter how necessary, nor how justified, is not a crime." (Ernest Hemingway)

Mar 12, 2004, 08:27 pm	#18 (permalink) (top)
Suburbanite BANNED Location: Los Angeles Posts: 3,203	I think the invention of a "liberal media" is one of the worst.

Mar 13, 2004, 05:00 am	#19 (permalink) (top)
Pooeypants Neo Moderator Location: England Posts: 5,467	</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (castille,) Well those Japanese killed 20 million Chinese (civilians), so its sort of payback in a way. And the Japanese still worship their war criminals (most were never put on trial), thus in China many people still worship the bombings of Japan.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> The Americans killed at least 2 million Vietnamese during the genocide in the 60's and 70's (lord knows which were actually fighting in the warfare...) does that mean Vietnam are long overdue for payback? War is Peace Freedom is Slavery Ignorance is strength Harness the power of Ingsoc, then you can capture someone killed the year before

Mar 14, 2004, 10:22 pm	#20 (permalink) (top)
Write Winger Molten Ash Location: Texas Posts: 96	1st Communism 2nd Socialism 3rd Facism 4th Liberalism 5th Cell Phones My book... Write Winger: Solutions for the Politically Oblique available from Booklocker.com