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ruiner · Mar 14, 2004, 11:41 pm

1. Money
2. Religion
3. Territory
4. TV
5. God

**Pooeypants** · Mar 15, 2004, 04:02 am

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Write Winger,)
1st Communism
2nd Socialism
3rd Facism
4th Liberalism
5th Cell Phones<hr size="1" /></blockquote>
You forget capitalism. :rolleyes:

castille · Mar 16, 2004, 07:10 am

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Pooeypants,)

The Americans killed at least 2 million Vietnamese during the genocide in the 60's and 70's (lord knows which were actually fighting in the warfare...) does that mean Vietnam are long overdue for payback?<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

Actually, many South Vietnamese support the Americans wholeheartly. Many of my friends who were from South Vietnam would have preferred the US to remained in Vietnam.

Keep in mind that the US at least tried to get its soldiers to stop killing civilians....Japan actually encouraged its soldiers to murder and rape. Not to mention human experiments.

**Pooeypants** · Mar 16, 2004, 08:12 am

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (castille,)

Actually, many South Vietnamese support the Americans wholeheartly. Many of my friends who were from South Vietnam would have preferred the US to remained in Vietnam.

Keep in mind that the US at least tried to get its soldiers to stop killing civilians....Japan actually encouraged its soldiers to murder and rape. Not to mention human experiments.<hr size="1" /></blockquote>
Still, it's a very large amount of human casualties, surely according to your mentality earlier, payback should be implemented?

damnrad · Mar 16, 2004, 03:08 pm

The worst invention? That's easy: the solar-powered flashlight.

Automatic Nate · Mar 16, 2004, 05:07 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (dave654,)
There's no such thing as a bad invention. The qualitative label "bad" is reserved for how the invention is used.<hr size="1" /></blockquote>
Unless, that is, one cannot conceive of a "good" use for something. I'd argue that synthesized "plague" bacteria and such (I'm no expert on this, so be gentle if they don't actually exist and I'm just a Dubya dupe) are probably beyond the boundaries of what I could call "good use." Of course, I think that machine guns and nukyular weapons fall into that category as well.

Impenitent · Mar 17, 2004, 12:32 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (damnrad,)
The worst invention? That's easy: the solar-powered flashlight.<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

cute

G. Adams · Mar 18, 2004, 07:56 am

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Write Winger,)
1st Communism
2nd Socialism
3rd Facism
4th Liberalism
5th Cell Phones<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

What the hell, socialism worse than fascism? More importantly, cell phones behind fascism?

So if you hate the left wing, the right wing, and the centre, that leaves you where? On your own in the woods with no friends?

dalin · Mar 18, 2004, 03:14 pm

Actually, didn't the air raids on Dresden produce more casualties than Hiroshima and Nagasaki? And they were using good ol' shells strapped to bombers too..

I might be wrong, anyone who has exact figures, please share.

The worst invention? That's a tough one.. it'd be something useless, not necessarily harmful.

RebelWithanAK · Mar 18, 2004, 05:29 pm

Overall? Sure. Per bomb? No.

dnacode · Mar 18, 2004, 06:00 pm

The worst invention is Lobbing in Washington.

dnacode · Mar 18, 2004, 06:14 pm

The worst lobbing is the Car Industry then insurance, pharmaceutical, MDs, sugar, dentistry, lawyers, tobbacco, aerospace, Israel. The car industry push the federal government into the biggest worst invention --the US system highway. A monster of inmense ecological, sociological and legal evil.
All these lobbies are master in creating justifications for their dangerous product and services.

Impenitent · Mar 18, 2004, 11:29 pm

lobbing happens on a tennis court or on an artillery range... lobbying happens in hotels...
lobstering happens on boats...

the worst lobbying groups are the environmentalists...

shunyadragon · Mar 20, 2004, 06:30 am

The best lobbing is manure lobbing. Common in politics

CherryPie · Mar 20, 2004, 02:07 pm

bikini waxing..... ugh.... worst invention ever, whoever thought "yay lets rip out the hair there in chunks" wasn't thinking too well....

dalin · Mar 20, 2004, 02:47 pm

Oh I beg to differ..I'm not complaining.

CherryPie · Mar 20, 2004, 03:11 pm

oh, you like getting your bikini area waxed?

CherryPie · Mar 20, 2004, 03:13 pm

am not saying i don't like how it ends up afterwards, but sheeze....

dalin · Mar 20, 2004, 03:18 pm

Dear lord no. I am primarily concerned with the outcome.

They do have Nair now.

CherryPie · Mar 20, 2004, 03:29 pm

lol.... yes they do.... i think my fave is laser hair removal now that was a good idea =D

Mar 15, 2004, 04:02 am	#22 (permalink) (top)
Pooeypants Neo Moderator Location: England Posts: 5,602	</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Write Winger,) 1st Communism 2nd Socialism 3rd Facism 4th Liberalism 5th Cell Phones<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> You forget capitalism. :rolleyes: War is Peace Freedom is Slavery Ignorance is strength Harness the power of Ingsoc, then you can capture someone killed the year before

Mar 16, 2004, 07:10 am	#23 (permalink) (top)
castille Citizen #21521 Posts: 2,599	</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Pooeypants,) The Americans killed at least 2 million Vietnamese during the genocide in the 60's and 70's (lord knows which were actually fighting in the warfare...) does that mean Vietnam are long overdue for payback?<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> Actually, many South Vietnamese support the Americans wholeheartly. Many of my friends who were from South Vietnam would have preferred the US to remained in Vietnam. Keep in mind that the US at least tried to get its soldiers to stop killing civilians....Japan actually encouraged its soldiers to murder and rape. Not to mention human experiments. Ideological loyalty is the act of giving your soul to a vague concept, to be manipulated by people smarter than you.

Mar 16, 2004, 08:12 am	#24 (permalink) (top)
Pooeypants Neo Moderator Location: England Posts: 5,602	</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (castille,) Actually, many South Vietnamese support the Americans wholeheartly. Many of my friends who were from South Vietnam would have preferred the US to remained in Vietnam. Keep in mind that the US at least tried to get its soldiers to stop killing civilians....Japan actually encouraged its soldiers to murder and rape. Not to mention human experiments.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> Still, it's a very large amount of human casualties, surely according to your mentality earlier, payback should be implemented? War is Peace Freedom is Slavery Ignorance is strength Harness the power of Ingsoc, then you can capture someone killed the year before

Mar 16, 2004, 05:07 pm	#26 (permalink) (top)
Automatic Nate Molten Ash Location: Bogart, GA, USA Posts: 130	</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (dave654,) There's no such thing as a bad invention. The qualitative label "bad" is reserved for how the invention is used.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> Unless, that is, one cannot conceive of a "good" use for something. I'd argue that synthesized "plague" bacteria and such (I'm no expert on this, so be gentle if they don't actually exist and I'm just a Dubya dupe) are probably beyond the boundaries of what I could call "good use." Of course, I think that machine guns and nukyular weapons fall into that category as well. "For neither Man nor Angel can discern Hypocrisie, The only evil that walks Invisible, except to God" --Paradise Lost

Mar 17, 2004, 12:32 pm	#27 (permalink) (top)
Impenitent Hot Lava Posts: 1,859	</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (damnrad,) The worst invention? That's easy: the solar-powered flashlight.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> cute "I really like this jacket, but the sleeves are much too long..." insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results...

Mar 14, 2004, 11:41 pm	#21 (permalink) (top)
ruiner Igneous Magma Posts: 180	1. Money 2. Religion 3. Territory 4. TV 5. God

Mar 16, 2004, 03:08 pm	#25 (permalink) (top)
damnrad Igneous Magma Posts: 264	The worst invention? That's easy: the solar-powered flashlight.

Mar 18, 2004, 07:56 am	#28 (permalink) (top)
G. Adams Fyrdman Location: Middlesbrough UK Posts: 4,153	</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Write Winger,) 1st Communism 2nd Socialism 3rd Facism 4th Liberalism 5th Cell Phones<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> What the hell, socialism worse than fascism? More importantly, cell phones behind fascism? So if you hate the left wing, the right wing, and the centre, that leaves you where? On your own in the woods with no friends? Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. Winston Churchill

Mar 18, 2004, 03:14 pm	#29 (permalink) (top)
dalin Molten Ash Posts: 118	Actually, didn't the air raids on Dresden produce more casualties than Hiroshima and Nagasaki? And they were using good ol' shells strapped to bombers too.. I might be wrong, anyone who has exact figures, please share. The worst invention? That's a tough one.. it'd be something useless, not necessarily harmful.

Mar 18, 2004, 05:29 pm	#30 (permalink) (top)
RebelWithanAK Igneous Magma Location: New York City Posts: 739	Overall? Sure. Per bomb? No. . . . whenever any government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute a new government, laying its foundations on such principles and organizing its powers in such forms as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.

Mar 18, 2004, 06:00 pm	#31 (permalink) (top)
dnacode Sedimentary Rock Posts: 9	The worst invention is Lobbing in Washington.

Mar 18, 2004, 06:14 pm	#32 (permalink) (top)
dnacode Sedimentary Rock Posts: 9	The worst lobbing is the Car Industry then insurance, pharmaceutical, MDs, sugar, dentistry, lawyers, tobbacco, aerospace, Israel. The car industry push the federal government into the biggest worst invention --the US system highway. A monster of inmense ecological, sociological and legal evil. All these lobbies are master in creating justifications for their dangerous product and services.

Mar 18, 2004, 11:29 pm	#33 (permalink) (top)
Impenitent Hot Lava Posts: 1,859	lobbing happens on a tennis court or on an artillery range... lobbying happens in hotels... lobstering happens on boats... the worst lobbying groups are the environmentalists... "I really like this jacket, but the sleeves are much too long..." insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results...

Mar 20, 2004, 06:30 am	#34 (permalink) (top)
shunyadragon Hot Lava Location: Hillsborough, NC Posts: 940	The best lobbing is manure lobbing. Common in politics The empty cup contains the most Frank A Doonan Turn weapons into peace and friendship with gifts of jade-silk www.shunyadragon.com I do not know, therefore I think . . .

Mar 20, 2004, 02:07 pm	#35 (permalink) (top)
CherryPie Redhead Location: Canada Posts: 28	bikini waxing..... ugh.... worst invention ever, whoever thought "yay lets rip out the hair there in chunks" wasn't thinking too well.... Easy as 3.1415926538979323846264338.......

Mar 20, 2004, 02:47 pm	#36 (permalink) (top)
dalin Molten Ash Posts: 118	Oh I beg to differ..I'm not complaining.

Mar 20, 2004, 03:11 pm	#37 (permalink) (top)
CherryPie Redhead Location: Canada Posts: 28	oh, you like getting your bikini area waxed? Easy as 3.1415926538979323846264338.......

Mar 20, 2004, 03:13 pm	#38 (permalink) (top)
CherryPie Redhead Location: Canada Posts: 28	am not saying i don't like how it ends up afterwards, but sheeze.... Easy as 3.1415926538979323846264338.......

Mar 20, 2004, 03:18 pm	#39 (permalink) (top)
dalin Molten Ash Posts: 118	Dear lord no. I am primarily concerned with the outcome. They do have Nair now.

Mar 20, 2004, 03:29 pm	#40 (permalink) (top)
CherryPie Redhead Location: Canada Posts: 28	lol.... yes they do.... i think my fave is laser hair removal now that was a good idea =D Easy as 3.1415926538979323846264338.......