Register (it's free)
Volconvo Debate Forums
Advertise Here »
Browse ad-free by donating
The Debate Forums Blogs | Donate Register (it's free) Chatroom Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read  
  Volconvo / Debate Forums / Science & Technology


This topic in Science & Technology is about Nuclear Fusion plant to be built in France.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old Jun 28, 2005, 10:21 am   #1 (permalink) (top)
Matt W
Moderator
 
Matt W's Avatar
 
Location: Reading, UK.
Posts: 6,195
Nuclear Fusion plant to be built in France

'Iter' to be built in France, Japan gets research centre as part of a 'compensation' package:-

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4629239.stm

Sounds interesting, especially this:

Quote:
One kilogram of fusion fuel would produce the same amount of energy as 10,000,000 kg of fossil fuel.


I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered.

-George Best, on being asked what he did with his footballing fortunes.
Matt W is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jun 28, 2005, 10:45 am   #2 (permalink) (top)
Samildanach
Pragmatist
 
Samildanach's Avatar
 
Location: UK London
Posts: 1,979
I can't wait for the results of this experiment. Its very very exciting. If this works it will be the biggest step mankind has made in a long time.


I wouldn't recommend sex, drugs and insanity for everyone, but its always worked for me.

Never think that war, no matter how necessary, nor how justified, is not a crime." (Ernest Hemingway)
Samildanach is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jun 28, 2005, 11:55 am   #3 (permalink) (top)
tman_ndsu08
BANNED
 
Posts: 5,021
*sigh*

This simply doesn't mean diddly poo, here in the US.

Frankly, Jesus could walk down from heaven and give us the plans for a 100% efficiency power plant that uses anti-matter/matter reactions to produce tons of energy, and our energy "officials" and the big oil companies would spit in his/her face.


The overwhelming costs that are associated with the construction of one of these plants and, no doubt, the high maintence costs more or less guarantee that no power company in North America will even consider building one.

Why should they? They have their fossil fuel infrastructure in place and they'll be damned if they have to spend one red cent to build anything else.
tman_ndsu08 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jun 28, 2005, 05:21 pm   #4 (permalink) (top)
Samildanach
Pragmatist
 
Samildanach's Avatar
 
Location: UK London
Posts: 1,979
Ummm...this is a prototype. The costs will be high to begin with but look at any kind of new cutting edge technology, its always expensive. Also if the US doesnt care about it why is it a partner in the project? Also I think that if a company did build one it would gain one hell of a lot of customers who want to 'be green' instead of as you say support the oil barons ruining the planet. That would be motivation alone for most people to switch sources and if one company has that kind of advantage then another will build one to compete and so on and so on.


I wouldn't recommend sex, drugs and insanity for everyone, but its always worked for me.

Never think that war, no matter how necessary, nor how justified, is not a crime." (Ernest Hemingway)
Samildanach is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jun 28, 2005, 05:53 pm   #5 (permalink) (top)
tman_ndsu08
BANNED
 
Posts: 5,021
Quote:
Quote by: Samildanach
Ummm...this is a prototype. The costs will be high to begin with but look at any kind of new cutting edge technology, its always expensive. Also if the US doesnt care about it why is it a partner in the project?

I didn't say the US didn't want ot build one, I said US energy companies won't want to build one.

Quote:
Also I think that if a company did build one it would gain one hell of a lot of customers who want to 'be green' instead of as you say support the oil barons ruining the planet.
I doubt that there are a enough who would support it at the much higher price. Maybe I'm wrong.
tman_ndsu08 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jun 28, 2005, 07:33 pm   #6 (permalink) (top)
G. Adams
Fyrdman
 
G. Adams's Avatar
 
Location: Middlesbrough UK
Posts: 4,152
Quote:
Quote by: tman_ndsu08
I didn't say the US didn't want ot build one, I said US energy companies won't want to build one.



I doubt that there are a enough who would support it at the much higher price. Maybe I'm wrong.
I would. But surely the energy companies recognise the vast amounts of money to be made selling off the new products and tech's that will inevitably be developed alongside it? Or selling the expertise of it's scientists to governments? Most EU governments will want one in their country if this experiment goes well. Any company who will be able to sell to at least the UK, France, Germany, Italy, Spain and probably a Nordic state will do very well if they have a virtual monopoly on the tech, or willingness to to proceed.


Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
Winston Churchill
G. Adams is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jun 28, 2005, 10:50 pm   #7 (permalink) (top)
mr.perfecto
Igneous Magma
 
Posts: 632
If this works out, what US energy companies want won't matter. It would be pretty silly to NOT outsource your energy needs to Europe if they are drastically undercutting the domestic price. The CIA will probably find a way to steal it, so I wouldn't worry too much about the Euros price gauging us.
mr.perfecto is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jun 29, 2005, 06:26 am   #8 (permalink) (top)
Pooeypants
Neo Moderator
 
Pooeypants's Avatar
 
Location: England
Posts: 5,549
If this prototype is successful, all the nations ("EU", US, Japan) involved will probably start rolling it out and no doubt China would make its own "copy" considering its current energy crisis.


War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is strength
Harness the power of Ingsoc, then you can capture someone killed the year before
Pooeypants is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:55 pm.

Sponsors (become a sponsor)
xango, UK Car Insurance, Beauty Salon, Coach Handbags, Miele Vacuums, Plus Size Bras, Gambling, Bullhorn, Horses for Sale, Ventrilo Server, liquid vitamins, weight loss, Smiley Central, Monetise your website, Ventrilo Server, Dyson Vacuums, Hydroponics & Grow Lights, Offshore banking, beauty salons, Offshore banking, Connecticut Electric Rate, Retail Electric Providers Cirro Energy, LasVegas Vacations, Web Design, homes in hudson, Affordable Web Hosting, Texas Electric Rate Cirro Energy, Security Audit, Guy Factor, Gun Forums, Car Insurance Credit Cards Mortgage Calculator Debt Consolidation Mortgage
Powered by vBulletin Version 3.7.1 Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.0.0

© 2003–2008 Volconvo.com

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9