Evolution!! Did we come from monkeys?

[lahokamal]

i ask for a brief answer; can you build a building without ground floor?
you cannot. how can you build a theory without explaining the origin of first living organism? Add the lack of transitional forms, invalid evolution mechanisms to this.
http://www.evolutiondeceit.com

[Pooeypants]

Oh and not this again...

By the way, for your information; the world IS flat and lightning is cast down by Zeus

[Dan_77]

Please, no one else reply to this until this guy bothers to read the 103950732056723 posts on volconvo that have already addressed this issue.

lahokamal, I welcome you to join in debate, but please read what's already been contributed before you post something as nonsensical as this.

[MerlinsByte]

ahokamali writes... I ask for a brief answer; can you build a building without ground floor?
you cannot. how can you build a theory without explaining the origin of first living organism? Add the lack of transitional forms, invalid evolution mechanisms to this.

I will answer and thank you for the question. This isn't exactly the same thing is it guys? However the answer might belong in the religion category. And he/she did ask for short answers which has not been the case in the "other" thread.

Did we come from monkeys? Our DNA is remarkably similar to other primates. (read the myth of evolution and other posts) IN MY OPINION we are made of manipulated (I feel by intelligent input) DNA most of which is lesser primates, monkeys chimps and the great apes.

mb

[Pooeypants]

The question in the title is laughable. No right minded biologist would say we're descended from Monkeys, rather, we've got a common ancestor. Typical creationist lark, makes for good entertainment.

[tman_ndsu08]

i ask for a brief answer; can you build a building without ground floor?

http://www.evolutiondeceit.com

Yes.

Step 1: get a large crane.

Step 2: build a roof strong enough to support the weight of the building.

Step 3: build the building from top to bottom.

[MerlinsByte]

BY POOEYPANTS...The question in the title is laughable. No right minded biologist would say we're descended from Monkeys, rather, we've got a common ancestor. Typical creationist lark, makes for good entertainment

MERLIN...Where did that common ancestor come from pooey? You defeat yourself . If you believe in the THEORY evoluoultion tells us that our lineage is from virus, which is much smaller and more simple than bactreia!

according to evolution even a worm is your distant ancestor pooey. If not how did all the species get here from the first pile of so called self replicating DNA? Study please then insult.

And could you tell me this in a paragraph or less? evoultion is dead, or terminal at best, lets hope its demise is quick.

mb

[Pooeypants]

MERLIN...Where did that common ancestor come from pooey? You defeat yourself . If you believe in the THEORY evoluoultion tells us that our lineage is from virus, which is much smaller and more simple than bactreia!

according to evolution even a worm is your distant ancestor pooey. If not how did all the species get here from the first pile of so called self replicating DNA? Study please then insult.

And could you tell me this in a paragraph or less? evoultion is dead, or terminal at best, lets hope its demise is quick.

mb

You show much arrogance for someone who doesn't even understand the science behind evolution. You just think that your opinion can overturn 150 years of work collected and analysed by thousands upon thousands of scientists ranging from geologists to biologist. At the end of the day, you have achieved nothing more than to delude yourself and continue this fantasy world you've invisaged.
Let me show you why you're uneducated. For starters, you think that the Evolution theory proposes one of our common ancestors were viruses. This is not the case, infact, it would be impossible. We have hypotheses which suggest that some virus originated as escaped cellular genes and some which may have co developed with actual life.

Next you say that the worm is our common ancestor, I've never claimed and nor has any biologist; at least not the worms we see today at any rate. That would be unfeasible and only dreamt up by ignorant creationists who lack a grasp of the science and the evidence behind it. You can keep denying the facts but they won't change.

[MerlinsByte]

where did the first one celled creature come from pooey?

mb

[MerlinsByte]

Merlin writes...I said that if you beleive theroy of evoultion our LINEAGE can be traced from virus....(websters lineage a : descent in a line from a common progenito)

BY POOEYPANTS...The question in the title is laughable. No right minded biologist would say we're descended from Monkeys, rather, we've got a common ancestor. Typical creationist lark, makes for good entertainment

Merlin writes...."there is monkey in our family tree and virus and basic chemicals, and star dust...according to mainstream scientific theroy." read below pooey believers


ANTI CREATION WEBSITE QUOTE>>>And though we know all living species are made up of chemical elements that were common on this planet some 3.5 billion years ago, it is true that scientists have not been able to bring forth any complete and reproductive living cells simply<<<<and on to more swill....

Pooey .... the above is a quote from a VERY ANTI CREATION website....

I don't think you are intentionally lying. However the unfacts that you are posting as fact can be harmful.

It wouldn't bother me at all If you expressed these untruths as your personal opinion. Some of the people who read this may embarrass themselves quoting your science.

So to summarize. We have a lineage goes back to the first carbon based chemicals on earth (according to evolution theory, some of which I haven't rejected yet) then to the core of second generation stars.

Learn the subject, at least on a basic grade school, level before engaging keyboard pooey.


mb

[Sonart]

evoultion is dead, or terminal at best, lets hope its demise is quick.

Only in your fevered brain. Evolution is nowhere near dead and will remain a basic tenet of biology, since it's a fact. To say otherwise is, at best, wishful dreaming, and at worst, simply a lie.

But we've been through all this.

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[Pooeypants]

where did the first one celled creature come from pooey?

mb

It can never be confirmed with absolute certainty, just like anything else biologically related. Just because we don't have a definitive scientific answer now doesn't mean we automatically default to the "god did it" solution, that's pure laziness.

[rez]

Did we come from monkeys? Our DNA is remarkably similar to other primates. (read the myth of evolution and other posts) IN MY OPINION we are made of manipulated (I feel by intelligent input) DNA most of which is lesser primates, monkeys chimps and the great apes.

mb

Your opinion means jack shit unless you present scientific evidence.

[Pooeypants]

Merlin writes...I said that if you beleive theroy of evoultion our LINEAGE can be traced from virus....(websters lineage a : descent in a line from a common progenito)

Merlin writes...."there is monkey in our family tree and virus and basic chemicals, and star dust...according to mainstream scientific theroy." read below pooey believers

ANTI CREATION WEBSITE QUOTE>>>And though we know all living species are made up of chemical elements that were common on this planet some 3.5 billion years ago, it is true that scientists have not been able to bring forth any complete and reproductive living cells simply<<<<and on to more swill....

Pooey .... the above is a quote from a VERY ANTI CREATION website.... SOURCE???

If you say anti creation website, without a source I'd assume it's your average scientific website.

Anyway, I think you're talking about ERVs aren't you? Like how we find common ones with our closely related primates?

I don't think you are intentionally lying. However the unfacts that you are posting as fact can be harmful.

It wouldn't bother me at all If you expressed these untruths as your personal opinion. Some of the people who read this may embarrass themselves quoting your science.

So to summarize. We have a lineage goes back to the first carbon based chemicals on earth (according to evolution theory, some of which I haven't rejected yet) then to the core of second generation stars.

Learn the subject, at least on a basic grade school, level before engaging keyboard pooey.

mb

I'm not exactly what it is you're on about but you did say, "If you believe in the THEORY evoluoultion tells us that our lineage is from virus, which is much smaller and more simple than bactreia!" which I interpreted as that you suggested we're proposing our ancestor included viruses.

I think you need to clarify what exactly it is that you are out to prove, so far you've written jargon upon jargon.

[Aaron Spicka]

NO. Monkeys are similar, but how did the gigantic leap from ape to human happen? If this is true why monkeys still at the same level they have been for the longest time. HUMANS ARE NOT FROM MONKEYS( i think ).

[Asian-American]

Only in your fevered brain. Evolution is nowhere near dead and will remain a basic tenet of biology, since it's a fact. To say otherwise is, at best, wishful dreaming, and at worst, simply a lie.

Actually, I see no reason why evolution will remain an accepted theory for ever: societies are always warring and changing: one scientist, Matt Nuenke, was stating how currently the Western World is becoming less rational and more superstitious.

Imagine the cultural remains after the coming nuclear World War III: will it be back to living in caves and hunting and gathering, while worshipping various objects, perhaps the Moon or Sun?

[Asian-American]

When followers of superstition make the claim that humans are too complicated to have not been intelligently designed by someone, I mention that based on this argument, deities would then have to have been designed by someone, esp. since deities by definition are supposed to be even more complicated than humans by magnitudes of trillions.

[MerlinsByte]

By merlin
Where did the first one celled creature come from pooey?

mb

Pooey answers.. can never be confirmed with absolute certainty, just like anything else biologically related. Just because we don't have a definitive scientific answer now doesn't mean we automatically default to the "god did it" solution, that's pure laziness.

Merlin tolerantly; replies…you did not answer my question. Allow me to rephrase it. In your opinion how did the very first one cell creature or replicating life appear?


mb

[MerlinsByte]

BT MERLIN..........ANTI CREATION WEBSITE QUOTE>>>And though we know all living species are made up of chemical elements that were common on this planet some 3.5 billion years ago, it is true that scientists have not been able to bring forth any complete and reproductive living cells simply....

Pooey .... the above is a quote from a VERY ANTI CREATION Website.... SOURCE???

Merlin writes….Do you agree with the for now source-less post? If you agree (and you should because it is very basic evolutionary theory why do you need a source. If you disagree with the post. I will give you the hyperlink or just type basic evolutionary theory in your browser pooey.

Concering the ERVs (or the IERVs). I think the current study of ERVs as modifiers within the species is an fascinating study. However a weakness in the studies is that there as of today no proof that these ERVs have intergrated into the regulatory regions in the human genome. Hint; notice that I saind intergrated pooey.

I spoke of virus (which may the smallest unit of life or self replicating non life) tis you that denied that we had any connection to virus. The ervs are retrovirus and of course we share retro, which has a good ability to adapt and mutate. I was speaking of primitive non retro virus.


The point I was making is that we can trace the chemicals in our bodies to the 2nd generation stars and other steller (pun unintended) events. And that life from chemicals even virus which is at least 1000 times as small as bacteria has never been produced in the lab.

mb

[MerlinsByte]

BY ASIAN-A.....When followers of superstition make the claim that humans are too complicated to have not been intelligently designed by someone, I mention that based on this argument, deities would then have to have been designed by someone, esp. since deities by definition are supposed to be even more complicated than humans by magnitudes of trillions.

Merlin writes…..Yes that could be one explanation Asian. Here is another. Suppose a deity that was not only trillions of years lets say for the sake of augment this deity was infinitely older and of course more advanced, to say the least. It created the universe and our weird space-time with it, setting the natural laws in motion. It created the first life as soon as matter cooled and coalesced from the big bang. Then this life proceeded on its way with small inputs from intelligent design or god. I feel that soon we may have an answer from SETI. Maybe that older more advanced intelligent life such as angles (ET?) are the first created life. Science cannot produce the simplest life. It should be easy, after all they know the processes the ingredients and the method. Where is even the most simple lab produced life?