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    Using repetition to enter the fourth dimension.

    I guess we could call light that reflects back between two mirrors a new dimension. Is it possible to do it with materials? I mean, we are made of materials, and it would be great to enter the fourth dimension, at least to say we have done it!

    If we were to look at this image, we could see how it would be, that when we walk through a house from door to door, we emulate this image?



    Now, we can see how to enter the fourth dimension, we need eight points of total flexibility. This would be the four arms of the mechanism that keep going around and 'bending' the 'inner block' and then acting as if they were in the block, yet not in the block.

    If we were to take a few atoms and make them, not displace, but move through each other, with the one being pushed through the other, with the other naturally contorting and allowing for this 'big push', the displacer would be going into the fourth dimension, yes? Just like in the image.

    So, to send us through a fourth dimension, we would need to first try it with light, as that affects all the atoms in between the mirrors as well. There should be a sphere of mirrors, like a mirror ball turned inside out, and then it should be closed. The recorder should remain inside, and then the mirrors should be shot with various light effects. This will plunge the recorder into nearly entrophic states, all recorded for us to see afterwards. Maybe the light could be tempered with something that has mass? then we could emit something like a germ into the container? What would that do? How about something tied to light, like lightning? I wonder where this will lead...

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    Stargate.

    If we actually want to enter the fourth dimension, we need some way to actually open it up for us.

    This could be done by splitting an object into length and breadth, and then giving it depth. To explain this properly to you, we could take a blanket hung on a line, and then stretch it from end to end, and top to bottom, and then pull it from each side of it, like making a blanket - two dimensional - look like a 'room.' Maybe we could pull it in the centre on each side and make it three dimensional? This means the space inside the centres would be the fourth dimension!

    Using lasers, we could focus two of them on the same place, and then make them bisect there. The thing is, they will be going into each other, but i can see no problems yet... Then we could load them with positive ions and watch them meet up... with the force behind them, they would push each other away, so, maybe the 'force' could push them apart and make a new object in the centre of it? This would mean 'filling the gap' or, making a fourth dimension all the way down the beam of the laser. Then we could heat the lasers so that they make it like a squishy door from stargate?

    Okay, so we also need to make the laser beams very large in height and width. The depth wil be where we stick the stuff we want to go through the 'stargate!' As the area fills, we will be able to set up a video recorder and then film what happens and what wierdness lurks inside the fourth dimension, as it is actually within the third dimension, literally, if you understand my blanket idea.

    Or, we could use one wide laser onto a mirror. Then we could see the area inside the laser - where it reflects - become filled as if it were the fourth dimension?

    Maybe instead of using positive or negative forces to create resistance, we could use particle annihilation? There must be a way to literally open a door to another dimension... Maybe anti matter?

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    The fourth dimension is time. Congratulations, you're already in it.

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    Quote Quote by: HoleyCarbonGrid View Post
    The fourth dimension is time. Congratulations, you're already in it.
    Well, what do we call this thing then? you spoiled all my fun!

    Yes, i am aware of the reference to time as the fourth dimension, but this comes with a picture and everything!

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    Hey, I just went ahead in time, entering the future, and there are more waves of the future already nearby and about to arrive. It's a StarGate. See you in the near future.

    Your hypercube is of 4D, four distances, as so is spacetime as Einstein's block universe. Internally, the 4th dimensional distance converts to time, via the speed of light, c, as seen in these dimensional units:

    dddt (internal spacetime) = dddd (hypervolume) / d/t (speed of light)


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    Quote Quote by: DragonFly View Post
    Hey, I just went ahead in time, entering the future,
    and there are more waves of the future already nearby
    and about to arrive.
    It's a StarGate.
    I listen to wisdom when it's offered, and there it is. Too bad I can't travel back in time to see the original "StarGate" movie in 1994.

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    Quote Quote by: DragonFly View Post
    Hey, I just went ahead in time, entering the future, and there are more waves of the future already nearby and about to arrive. It's a StarGate. See you in the near future.

    Your hypercube is of 4D, four distances, as so is spacetime as Einstein's block universe. Internally, the 4th dimensional distance converts to time, via the speed of light, c, as seen in these dimensional units:

    dddt (internal spacetime) = dddd (hypervolume) / d/t (speed of light)
    Okay, but this one isn't about time travel, it is about transistors [snoop dogg and korn, i think...].

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    Quote Quote by: Charlatan View Post
    Okay, but this one isn't about time travel, it is about transistors [snoop dogg and korn, i think...].
    Don't laser beams go right through each other, except in Star Wars, where they stop and buzz?

    Atoms can't be in the same place at the same time, either.


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    Quote Quote by: Charlatan View Post
    I guess we could call light that reflects back between two mirrors a new dimension. Is it possible to do it with materials? I mean, we are made of materials, and it would be great to enter the fourth dimension, at least to say we have done it!

    If we were to look at this image, we could see how it would be, that when we walk through a house from door to door, we emulate this image?



    Now, we can see how to enter the fourth dimension, we need eight points of total flexibility. This would be the four arms of the mechanism that keep going around and 'bending' the 'inner block' and then acting as if they were in the block, yet not in the block.

    If we were to take a few atoms and make them, not displace, but move through each other, with the one being pushed through the other, with the other naturally contorting and allowing for this 'big push', the displacer would be going into the fourth dimension, yes? Just like in the image.

    So, to send us through a fourth dimension, we would need to first try it with light, as that affects all the atoms in between the mirrors as well. There should be a sphere of mirrors, like a mirror ball turned inside out, and then it should be closed. The recorder should remain inside, and then the mirrors should be shot with various light effects. This will plunge the recorder into nearly entrophic states, all recorded for us to see afterwards. Maybe the light could be tempered with something that has mass? then we could emit something like a germ into the container? What would that do? How about something tied to light, like lightning? I wonder where this will lead...
    I really don't want to discuss entering the 4th dimension, per-se but the concept of crossing from one dimension to another has fascinated Man since the advent of quantum physics and spatial displacement. I believe that every human being goes from this dimension of the living to another dimension I will call eternity when we die in this flesh. Now, what changes take place on the sub-atomic level that differentiates a dead person (from the perspective of the living) and a live person that is definable? I will tell you what it is, it is as simple as the frequency which we vibrate at on the molecular level thereby releasing our spirit/life force to enter that other dimension that is invisible to the living.

    I realize I might be taking this discussion in a more metaphysical direction than you intended but simply put, I believe if we could create a machine that could vibrate at the proper pre-existing and pre-established inter-dimensional frequencies, we could jump from one dimension to the next and possibly travel to other universes or through time itself. In fact, I firmly believe that once we enter eternity we will have the capacity to travel through time and space without limitations.

    What is a black hole if not a rift in space that vibrates at its own frequency? I instinctively know it's a highway to another place in time and space even though we have no evidence of that YET because nobody can enter one and return to tell us about it. I also know that it exists as a black hole or a worm hole as some call them only because it vibrates at a different frequency than the visible space around it.

    The practical problem that makes building such a machine out of solid matter potentially impossible at this time is that it must vibrate on a sub-atomic/molecular level which would theoretically cause it to vibrate itself out of existence.


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    ^^Well it's pretty much unanimous among the scientific community that black holes kill you and tear your body to shreds, so I don't see how there's any way you could make it to the "other side" if there even is one.


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    Quote Quote by: Dan74 View Post
    ^^Well it's pretty much unanimous among the scientific community that black holes kill you and tear your body to shreds, so I don't see how there's any way you could make it to the "other side" if there even is one.
    What is unanimously believed is that the gravitational pull within a black hole is so great that nothing caught in its grip, even light, can escape it. It is a massive assumption that black holes kill and rip your body to shreds under all circumstance. Besides, that wasn't the point of the debate at all. The point I was making is that all matter vibrates at a certain frequency which determines its mass and density as compared to the visible space around it.

    Here's a link to a specific intermediate size black hole near the center of the universe.



    http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...hPL0FpthXckFbA


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    Quote Quote by: Politiphile
    What is unanimously believed is that the gravitational pull within a black hole is so great that nothing caught in its grip, even light, can escape it. It is a massive assumption that black holes kill and rip your body to shreds under all circumstance. Besides, that wasn't the point of the debate at all. The point I was making is that all matter vibrates at a certain frequency which determines its mass and density as compared to the visible space around it.
    Um...

    http://arxiv.org/pdf/1207.3123.pdf

    Spaghettification - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    It's not an "assumption", people are just unsure at this point whether you're stretched to death or instantly fried.

    Here's a link to a specific intermediate size black hole near the center of the universe.
    The universe doesn't have a center. You're thinking of a galaxy.


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