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    Science and vedas

    i am ex muslim and now i am searching. i habe heard about miracles of vedas. can you bring me scientific miracles in vedas and prove it they are really in vedas.


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    How about you abandon superstitious garbage altogether? There is no god.

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    i am searching. it is to easy to say just there is no god. when i will be sure there is no god i would say there is no god


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    ...scientific miracles...
    Many would consider that an oxymoron. Religious faith is religious faith and science is science. There's very little crossover.



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    scientific good explanations i mean...

    like earth is round. if that was written in old scripture that was good scientific explanation.

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    "The earth is round" is not a scientific explanation. It's not round but, even if it was, making dogmatic statements is not what science is about. Science is the process, not the conclusion.

    I think you are searching in the wrong forum by the way. Try putting the words "religions" and "forum" in your fave search engine.


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    i found some hindus here so i asked

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    scientific good explanations i mean...

    like earth is round. if that was written in old scripture that was good scientific explanation.
    It was a reasonable explanation for that time, but it isn't a "scientific" explanation nor is it a description I'd expect from an almighty creator who would certainly know he hadn't created a round planet. Like many statements in both the Qur'an and Bible, it's an understandable belief for people of that day and age. It wasn't until hundreds of years later we learned what we now know about the shape of the planet.



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    It wasn't until hundreds of years later we learned what we now know about the shape of the planet.
    That's not actually true. Eratosthenes learned this fact centuries before the birth of Christ. If the Bible or any other religious text records this, it does nothing to prove its validity, as Eratosthenes may not have been the first to make the deduction.

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    Eratosthenes learned this fact centuries before the birth of Christ.
    Point taken. I guess the god of Abraham wasn't looking over his shoulder.



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    The question you should ask is: Is it reasonable to think the miracles happened?

    One might say there is no scientific way to disprove the virgin birth of Jesus, or that he walked on water. But does a lack of evidence make the statements true?

    What if I told you a man named Joseph once turned a rock into a million dollars. What if I then said because you cannot disprove it, it must be true. Would this at all be reasonable?

    "That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence."

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    The question you should ask is: Is it reasonable to think the miracles happened?
    Agreed, and I think we should also ask: Is it consistent with what we observe happening every day in our reality? When we're told about someone regaining life after being dead three days or walking on water we have every reason to be highly skeptical, since we can be pretty sure this doesn't occur in our physical universe. Every anomaly deserves to be critically examined for validity, and validation ought to be withheld until we are satisfied the anomalous event actually occurred.



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