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    Drilling for Oil

    With the gulf disaster, is oil drilling as dangerous as that event might make it seem, or is it worth the risks, however large or small they may be?


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    It's a finite resource and we're using it at a prodigious rate. Remaining deposits are in increasingly difficult to access and environmentally sensitive places. Soon we'll be digging up Alberta to squeeze it out of the sand.
    And then there are the wars, political strife and terrorism engendered by our need to secure reliable supplies.

    We're going to have to transition to alternatives eventually. Why wait till the last catastrophic moment?


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    I think I saw a statistic that off shore drilling provides less than 5% of the oil consumed in this country. If that's true then the risk of environmental damage isn't worth the benefit of offshore drilling. Can anyone verify this data?

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    What about considering the risks not only to the environment, but also to people's lives, whether it be the actual dangers of working, or the people who are affected when disasters occur?


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    Quote Quote by: lzrh1115 View Post
    What about considering the risks not only to the environment, but also to people's lives, whether it be the actual dangers of working, or the people who are affected when disasters occur?
    Oh my! Risks. The sky is falling. What tripe to worry over risks in this field of endeavor without comparing them to that of even a modest pregnancy. A woman is more at risk. And then if a child commits suicide at age 20 does not epitomize the risk taken by having children?

    Of course there are risks. I spent 31 years in a coal mine. I jumped from a plane over 300 times. Have children. Don't want risks? Death will rid us of the nuisance.

    What are the risks of starvation and freezing in the dark? Geez.

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    Quote Quote by: lzrh1115 View Post
    With the gulf disaster, is oil drilling as dangerous as that event might make it seem, or is it worth the risks, however large or small they may be?
    Gas prices are up 35% from last year. Heating costs are expected to be all time high this winter. Yes, it is worth the risk to ensure a safe and affordable fuel source for the middle and lower class to drill for domestic oil. Anywhere we can find it ... onshore, offshore, deepwater, whatever. Let's stop pandering to the rich already and throw a bone to the middle and lower class for a change.


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    Quote Quote by: Derach View Post
    Gas prices are up 35% from last year.
    Heating costs are expected to be all time high this
    winter.
    Keep this in mind:
    "Every 25-cent increase in refining margins boosts full-year
    net income at
    ConocoPhillips by $125 million, according to company filings.
    Margins for the industry averaged $7.26 a barrel in the first three
    months of the year, the strongest first-quarter performance since at
    least 1990.
    'The combination of good demand and tight supply is raising
    profits,' said Darren Peers, who helps manage $17 billion, including
    more than 6 million ConocoPhillips shares, at NWQ Investment
    Management in Los Angeles."
    Pumped-up profits for oil refiners; | Consumer Watchdog

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    Quote Quote by: grandpa View Post
    Keep this in mind:
    "Every 25-cent increase in refining margins boosts full-year
    net income at
    ConocoPhillips by $125 million, according to company filings.
    Margins for the industry averaged $7.26 a barrel in the first three
    months of the year, the strongest first-quarter performance since at
    least 1990.
    'The combination of good demand and tight supply is raising
    profits,' said Darren Peers, who helps manage $17 billion, including
    more than 6 million ConocoPhillips shares, at NWQ Investment
    Management in Los Angeles."
    Pumped-up profits for oil refiners; | Consumer Watchdog

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    Quote Quote by: grandpa View Post
    Keep this in mind:
    "Every 25-cent increase in refining margins boosts full-year
    net income at
    ConocoPhillips by $125 million, according to company filings.
    Margins for the industry averaged $7.26 a barrel in the first three
    months of the year, the strongest first-quarter performance since at
    least 1990.
    'The combination of good demand and tight supply is raising
    profits,' said Darren Peers, who helps manage $17 billion, including
    more than 6 million ConocoPhillips shares, at NWQ Investment
    Management in Los Angeles."
    Pumped-up profits for oil refiners; | Consumer Watchdog

    Grandpa h.
    Profit margins of less than 10% for an industry that requires so much investment, insurance and upkeep doesn't seem absorbanent to me. Wonder how much winds up going to taxes on a barrel of oil? I've got a feeling it's more than $7.26.

    That's actually a tiny figure ... A quick google search revealed that a barrel of oil translates into about 20 gallons of gasoline. So big oil makes about .35 cents a gallon ... pretty reasonable if you ask me.


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