Creationism vs. Evolution

[Technosoul]

Quote by: gallo That doesn't make sense. The point is that if god is all powerful then nothing can happen without his will and everything that he wills happens. No. Planning ahead means imperfect. Planning is a process and implies change. Something that can change is not perfect. Only in weak theologies is god changeable. If you ascribe thought, planning, design or any other human processes to god, they you are talking about a fiction of humans. I would not accept the job as PR man for some god. There is nothing to offer anyone in support of the existance of such a being.

I see no problem with consciousness creating and things reproducing and adapting to environmental sistuations. The big problem is not with the concept of a creation but rather with the concepts people use for creating a mythological god that does things with supernatural powers.

The whole idea that god is like a human being who walks around in the cool of the evening talking to Adam who is hiding behind a fig tree is in need of some repair work. As a P.R. person you would have to do a lot of damage control. It would be like proving that President Bush is making sense having a war in Irag.

They are making a comic book super hero out of god with such concepts.
Or a science fictional alien.

All such concepts must at least be in uniformity with what we now know about as human beings. We no longer live in the pottery era and so god concepts need to be upgraded to match current knowledge and must continue to upgrade as we learn more knowledge about our world, our self, and our poetic potentials to imagine things in a logical manner.

Faith and belief would be displaced by understanding and the next aha moment and would manifest as a theory that is like a progressive moderate, not as a mission impossible agenda for radical attachment.

[Winter wind]

Quote by: thantos Harry Potter could be nonfiction too. The Ministry of Magic would have its hands full trying to keep Hogwarts off of satellite imaging systems and preventing Muggles from leaning against a certain pillar in Kings Cross, but they're a determined bunch of wizards and I'm sure they would find a way. Proving the impossibility of disproving a conjecture does not equal proof of that conjecture. Barring unforseen mental gymnastics, I believe this line of argument has just come to a dead end.

Oh i donno. I can see why God made an Autobiography, but why would the wizards create a book under the alias of JK Rolling?

Quote by: gallo That doesn't make sense. The point is that if god is all powerful then nothing can happen without his will and everything that he wills happens.

sure, but he seems to want to work within the logic of his own world (to an extent).

No. Planning ahead means imperfect. Planning is a process and implies change. Something that can change is not perfect. Only in weak theologies is god changeable. If you ascribe thought, planning, design or any other human processes to god, they you are talking about a fiction of humans.

I don't disagree, but I think God seems to have wanted to work within the rules of the world he created (to a point).

So the best way to do that is to use the butterfly effect to manipulate the world.

I would not accept the job as PR man for some god. There is nothing to offer anyone in support of the existance of such a being.

You are absolutely no fun. :3