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Robert Marsh II · Aug 27, 2009, 08:07 pm

If the human race technologically advances forward as it has been doing for the past decades, then the probability increases dramatically in favor for the future cryonics patient rescues.

Cryonics Institute -- Feature Article: Cryonics: The Probability Of Rescue

Robert Marsh II · Aug 28, 2009, 04:39 pm

Not everything is secure in the world of cryonics suspension, because there are some legal loop-holes that still exist on the books --- in some states.

Iowa for example, now has a court-case that challenges the 'next of kin' rights and rulings of regional judges, in regard to the legal disposition of remains for those pre-selecting and contract paying for cryonics procedures, to be immediately started at the time of death.

The last wishes and final requests of some individuals can be revoked, including pre-existing legal contracts involving the deceased --- at least in Iowa.

This then forces the pre-selected contract company to become responsible to pursue legal proceedings to challenge previous rulings, ------

And in the mean time, the deceased body has been buried or cremated, leaving it impossible to comply with the cryonics suspension procedures.

Cryonics debate may be headed to Iowa Supreme Court | GazetteOnline.com

Cryonics Firm Sues Family Over Dead Mans Not Frozen Head / IowaNewsHawk.com

Robert Marsh II · Aug 28, 2009, 05:53 pm

In quantum mathematics, a particle is said to have a position and momentum, which is its location in space/time and its relative directional velocity line of travel.

Quite simply; Location -- v/s -- Where it is going.

An observer can detect a particles' location, but according to the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle, once the location is established, then the momentum becomes an uncertain and inaccurate measurement.

You can either know the location or momentum of a particle, but 'not' both of them at the same time.

This opens the doorway to the Collapsed Wave Function, which basically states that through time/space entropy, there is a number of possible outcomes for any given event, but as each second goes by, there are choices and non-choices being made, that collapses the wave of selection and locks the outcome into final reality.

Quantum physics shows how quantum particles are sometimes here, sometimes there, and sometimes both here and there at the same time.

Some particles such as muons have been detected and studied at CERN in 1964 traveling through time!

When you crunch all of this down into its simplest form, scientists have determined that the choices we make in the present moment, today, in the here and now, can and do indeed affect past and future outcomes from a distance.

Every single moment of action or non-action, we are collapsing the wave functions that alter past and future outcomes, and this solidifies our current moment in reality.

Applying this to cryonics, as people make the choice to become for or against the concept of cryonics, these same choices are affecting the past and future outcomes of cryonics, that actually make the present moment become an existing outcome in reality to begin with.

This of course is applied to every field of thought, design or endeavor that you can possibly imagine, and perhaps it is our own imaginations that create our own perceptions of existence in the first place.

The chicken or the egg?

I say both came first!

Reflections on Paul Davies' God and the New Physics

Schroedinger's Cat

DJK · Aug 28, 2009, 07:49 pm

Quantum theory works but is not complete, even the greatest minds cant agree so I am going to hold off on my beliefs about this untill there is more concrete science........

Is this what you mean though....ie. I suspect that like a billard ball on a frictionless pockectless pool table that every action has a measurable reaction. Only we live in 3 or more dimensions not 2 and the variables of cause and effect are astronomical. That doesnt mean with a big enough computer you couldnt crunch the numbers and determine every event down to the very sub atomic particles all the way up to the macro world which includes the brains and minds of all who existed and all they have affected. Only it would be really really really hard to do and time doesnt wait for the numbers to crunch out..it keeps churning out more data. With such a super computer could you completely reconstruct the past to at least a practical virtual reality level???

I had though about this..and if some advance aliens could have done this or God as we define him??? and then by sheer chance I watched stanley kubricks AI and thats sort of what the aliens did at the end with some corny hollywood twists.

as for the chicken and the egg...I have a theory...LOL
evolution would have a common ancestor to the chicken..we'll call him the chucken or neander-chicken but the word egg is commonly used for many different species including prehistorical ones...so there was an egg even before the chucken mutated enough for us to consider it a full fledged chicken!

Robert Marsh II · Aug 29, 2009, 12:01 am

Most of modern physics is shrouded within a cloak of theoretical mathematics, and until experiments such as the CERN Large Hadron Collider (LHC), or until other particle accelerators can shed new light upon our reality, then much is still based in pure hypothetical speculation.

However, much information has already been confirmed by electrodynamics and thermodynamics.

As everything ages through thermodynamic entropy, molecules slow down and lose energy, thus causing 'molecular random drift'.

DNA/RNA begin to mutate and this accelerates the aging process.

Theoretically it follows that, the underlying cause for molecular drift is nuclear drift, coming from an originating 'quantum random diffusion'.

Each one is dependent upon the next in succession, in order to produce stability.

When this stability collapses, aging accelerates with the arrow of time.

Aging research; molecular concepts of aging, related diseases and cloning.

Cern Lhc/alice/atlas

Robert Marsh II · Aug 29, 2009, 01:21 pm

Mankind's future is a complete uncertainty, as shown by the following short story that highlights the phrase : "Expect the Unexpected!"

Synopsis : >>>>

A chilling story with a smash-hit ending! Follow the life of Harley D. Haworth who has everything, except a trump card against death.

Gambling his vast fortune he turns the tables on the grim reaper of finality, entering a strange and different world~~~~

The Penultimate Trump

"The Penultimate Trump" - By: Dr. Robert C.W. Ettinger - Care2 News Network

The Black Ghost · Aug 29, 2009, 06:45 pm

You could also get on a ship traveling at the speed of light, and come back to Earth in a few years and just pretend you were in cryonic suspension

Robert Marsh II · Aug 30, 2009, 11:21 am

> Reply to Black Ghost :

Black Ghost; With the fabric of space/time expanding and accelerating, thus expanding and accelerating time in its wake, then your trip at the speed of light will soon only take a matter of a few months, when it used to take several years!!!

Some argue that time is slowing down; however, our human perception of time across all age ranges of polled individuals is showing that :

"Time is speeding up, with only short intervals of slowing down".

There is an anomaly occuring, and since the mass of the Earth or Sun is not decreasing drastically, then the most likely cause to be observed is in the fabric of space/time itself.

If we could measure time and space with a ruler, and since that ruler would be subject to the same laws of expansion and acceleration, then the ruler would show 'NO' change measurable, but in reality these changes would actually exist.

Is Time Speeding Up?

* Note: Just posted this C2NN article :

Oh Dear, Is Time Speeding Up? - Care2 News Network

----------- >>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>

> New Post :

Cryonics research is progressing toward more effective experimental procedures, insuring less scientific advancement to be needed, in the reanimation of those who have chosen cryopreservation.

THE HIPPOCAMPAL SLICE CRYOPRESERVATION PROJECT

Robert Marsh II · Aug 31, 2009, 10:51 am

The scientific community must keep-in-check the self-dooming quality of blind optimism concerning the field of modern cryonics, and yet it appears that cryonic resuscitation in the future has become truly inevitable.

Cryonics and philosophy of science

Robert Marsh II · Aug 31, 2009, 06:03 pm

There have been a multitude of legal battles from state to state and country to country, bringing cryonics into a direct confrontation with the medical laws within their jurisdiction.

Cryonic embalming is still felt by many professionals to be illegal, causing the struggle to continue.

Cryonics Meets Medicine: Embalming and Cryonics

Robert Marsh II · Sep 1, 2009, 12:40 am

Many websites contain cryonics and cryobiology reference resource links :

Google Directory - Science > Biology > Cryobiology > Cryonics

Robert Marsh II · Sep 2, 2009, 12:47 am

Here is some cryonics fuel for thought and discussion.

I intend to post news and information links as they become available.

Cryonics

Nanomedicine by Robert Freitas

The Cryonics Society: News And Information

Robert Marsh II · Sep 2, 2009, 08:37 pm

There are two major cryonics organizations available :

#1. The Cryonics Institute

#2. Alcor

I have covered the Cryonics Institute, and here is some Alcor information coverage.

Alcor.org - Alcor Life Extension by Cryonics | Visit alcor.org

Cryonics: Alcor Life Extension Foundation

Robert Marsh II · Sep 3, 2009, 06:00 pm

Cryonics is currently involved with the Transhumanism evolution of mankind, in regard to the life extension process.

The general population needs to stay on guard against government manipulation of this pure evolutionist movement!

Transhumanism is held by most individuals to be a beautiful futuristic vision of Transtopia.

A future world where humans never die, and are augmented by machines (robotics and computers), chemistry, nanotechnology, and biological enhancement, made complete with self-governing freedoms.

It is up to us here today, to take an affirmative action approach to the situation, and begin to participate in these futuristic selections, that are taking place right now!

The following is not only a look at Transhumanism, but also gives the observer the chance to become an active part of the 21st century discussions in progress.

mi2g

Transhumanism: What are the Dangers and Benefits? - Care2 News Network

Robert Marsh II · Sep 5, 2009, 10:41 am

Arthur C. Clark assisted with Alcor's cryonics legal battles by first approving of this practice, and by furthermore attempting to establish an estimated probability of eventual cryo-patient resuscitation in the far future.

*There seems to be two major public reactions toward human cryonics suspension --- many people have a strong belief in its ultimate success, while still many others maintain very serious doubts.

> Article Link Excerpt :

To many people, the demonstration of the technical feasibility of cryonics is not sufficient to make cryonics arrangements for themselves.

Although cryonics can be presented as an advanced form of critical care medicine, one important difference between conventional medical treatment and cryonics is the duration of care, during which the patient is not conscious.

As a consequence, contemporary cryonics is intrinsically tied to resuscitation in a far, and unknown, future.

*While this may be part of its appeal to some, it seems to produce feelings of angst and vulnerability in many others.

This is not a trivial matter and needs careful thought by those offering cryonics services.

Arthur C. Clark and cryonics

Robert Marsh II · Sep 7, 2009, 12:08 am

Debate provides information and raises public awareness levels in order to pave a way forward, and can even perhaps resolve the seemingly impossible cryonics issues at hand, that can actually create a positive future outcome.

> Information & Skeptic Debate :

YouTube - CNN Crossfire Ted Williams Cryonics Debate July 2002 Part 1

CRYONICS − FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS (FAQ)

Cryonics Institute Member Resources

DEBATES ABOUT CRYONICS WITH SKEPTICS

CryoNet - Cryonics Mailing List

Robert Marsh II · Sep 8, 2009, 08:00 am

One of the largest and most persisting legal debates within the world of cryonics is: >>>>

Are cryonics facilities illegally 'embalming' without proper liscensing?

Each state or province has their own set of established laws, and these facilities are not embalming with standard embalming fluids, but rather 'embalming' with glycerol antifreeze (a cryopreservation technique) --- under improper licensing --- so many professionals argue!

Latest » Embalming and Cryonics

===========

Additional Reference Material for Previous Post Entry #36 :

> Part 1 :

YouTube - CNN Crossfire Ted Williams Cryonics Debate July 2002 Part 1

> Part 2 :

YouTube - CNN Crossfire Ted Williams Cryonics Debate July 2002 Part 2

Robert Marsh II · Sep 8, 2009, 08:46 am

This debate has been inspired by and dedicated to Dr. Robert C.W. Ettinger - The Father of Modern Cryonics Engineering.

*Debate Dedication -
Living Tribute to: Dr. Robert C.W. Ettinger:

Robert C.W. Ettinger: The Father of Modern Cryonic Human Preservation | Care2 Share

Cryonics Overview :

Cryonics

Robert Marsh II · Sep 12, 2009, 02:27 pm

As humanity advances forward scientifically, the optimism for successful cryonics resuscitation in the future increases; while the negative skeptic outlook decreases proportionately.

Revival of cryonics patients literature

21st Century Waves » Immortality — An Ebullient 21st Century Technology That’s to Die For!

Cryonics Meets Medicine: Suspended Animation's Medication Protocol

Robert Marsh II · Sep 16, 2009, 09:00 am

I have seriously speculated for some time now, that the D.C. comic book creation of the notorious supervillain Mr. Freeze, created by Bob Kane, was truly inspired by the real-life drama of Dr. Robert C.W. Ettinger - physics professor & father of the modern global cryonics movement.

> Living Tribute to: Dr. Robert C.W. Ettinger:

Robert C.W. Ettinger: The Father of Modern Cryonic Human Preservation | Care2 Share

The existing time-period lines up, and the biographical parallels are eye-catching!

Someone inspired something, that's for sure!

BATMAN ON FILM -- "A History of The Batman: MR. FREEZE"

Mr. Freeze - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Mr. Freeze: Information from Answers.com

YouTube - Mr Freeze, Heart of Ice (Batman TAS)

YouTube - Batman and Robin (1997) Full movie - Part 1/13

Aug 27, 2009, 08:07 pm	#21 (permalink)
Robert Marsh II The Iceman Cometh Location: Georgia Posts: 335 Blog Entries: 50	The Probability of Cryo-Patient Rescue If the human race technologically advances forward as it has been doing for the past decades, then the probability increases dramatically in favor for the future cryonics patient rescues. Cryonics Institute -- Feature Article: Cryonics: The Probability Of Rescue Obama's Economic Failure? http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/obamarebuildnow/ My News http://www.care2.com/news/member/510...sort=submitted

Aug 28, 2009, 04:39 pm	#22 (permalink)
Robert Marsh II The Iceman Cometh Location: Georgia Posts: 335 Blog Entries: 50	Cryonics Debate Goes to Court in Iowa Not everything is secure in the world of cryonics suspension, because there are some legal loop-holes that still exist on the books --- in some states. Iowa for example, now has a court-case that challenges the 'next of kin' rights and rulings of regional judges, in regard to the legal disposition of remains for those pre-selecting and contract paying for cryonics procedures, to be immediately started at the time of death. The last wishes and final requests of some individuals can be revoked, including pre-existing legal contracts involving the deceased --- at least in Iowa. This then forces the pre-selected contract company to become responsible to pursue legal proceedings to challenge previous rulings, ------ And in the mean time, the deceased body has been buried or cremated, leaving it impossible to comply with the cryonics suspension procedures. Cryonics debate may be headed to Iowa Supreme Court \| GazetteOnline.com Cryonics Firm Sues Family Over Dead Mans Not Frozen Head / IowaNewsHawk.com Obama's Economic Failure? http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/obamarebuildnow/ My News http://www.care2.com/news/member/510...sort=submitted

Aug 28, 2009, 05:53 pm	#23 (permalink)
Robert Marsh II The Iceman Cometh Location: Georgia Posts: 335 Blog Entries: 50	Quantum Physics Implications Upon the Future of Cryonics In quantum mathematics, a particle is said to have a position and momentum, which is its location in space/time and its relative directional velocity line of travel. Quite simply; Location -- v/s -- Where it is going. An observer can detect a particles' location, but according to the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle, once the location is established, then the momentum becomes an uncertain and inaccurate measurement. You can either know the location or momentum of a particle, but 'not' both of them at the same time. This opens the doorway to the Collapsed Wave Function, which basically states that through time/space entropy, there is a number of possible outcomes for any given event, but as each second goes by, there are choices and non-choices being made, that collapses the wave of selection and locks the outcome into final reality. Quantum physics shows how quantum particles are sometimes here, sometimes there, and sometimes both here and there at the same time. Some particles such as muons have been detected and studied at CERN in 1964 traveling through time! When you crunch all of this down into its simplest form, scientists have determined that the choices we make in the present moment, today, in the here and now, can and do indeed affect past and future outcomes from a distance. Every single moment of action or non-action, we are collapsing the wave functions that alter past and future outcomes, and this solidifies our current moment in reality. Applying this to cryonics, as people make the choice to become for or against the concept of cryonics, these same choices are affecting the past and future outcomes of cryonics, that actually make the present moment become an existing outcome in reality to begin with. This of course is applied to every field of thought, design or endeavor that you can possibly imagine, and perhaps it is our own imaginations that create our own perceptions of existence in the first place. The chicken or the egg? I say both came first! Reflections on Paul Davies' God and the New Physics Schroedinger's Cat Obama's Economic Failure? http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/obamarebuildnow/ My News http://www.care2.com/news/member/510...sort=submitted

Aug 29, 2009, 12:01 am	#25 (permalink)
Robert Marsh II The Iceman Cometh Location: Georgia Posts: 335 Blog Entries: 50	Molecular Random Drift Causes the DNA/RNA Aging Process Most of modern physics is shrouded within a cloak of theoretical mathematics, and until experiments such as the CERN Large Hadron Collider (LHC), or until other particle accelerators can shed new light upon our reality, then much is still based in pure hypothetical speculation. However, much information has already been confirmed by electrodynamics and thermodynamics. As everything ages through thermodynamic entropy, molecules slow down and lose energy, thus causing 'molecular random drift'. DNA/RNA begin to mutate and this accelerates the aging process. Theoretically it follows that, the underlying cause for molecular drift is nuclear drift, coming from an originating 'quantum random diffusion'. Each one is dependent upon the next in succession, in order to produce stability. When this stability collapses, aging accelerates with the arrow of time. Aging research; molecular concepts of aging, related diseases and cloning. Cern Lhc/alice/atlas Obama's Economic Failure? http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/obamarebuildnow/ My News http://www.care2.com/news/member/510...sort=submitted

Aug 29, 2009, 01:21 pm	#26 (permalink)
Robert Marsh II The Iceman Cometh Location: Georgia Posts: 335 Blog Entries: 50	"The Penultimate Trump" - By: Dr. Robert C.W. Ettinger Mankind's future is a complete uncertainty, as shown by the following short story that highlights the phrase : "Expect the Unexpected!" Synopsis : >>>> A chilling story with a smash-hit ending! Follow the life of Harley D. Haworth who has everything, except a trump card against death. Gambling his vast fortune he turns the tables on the grim reaper of finality, entering a strange and different world~~~~ The Penultimate Trump "The Penultimate Trump" - By: Dr. Robert C.W. Ettinger - Care2 News Network Obama's Economic Failure? http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/obamarebuildnow/ My News http://www.care2.com/news/member/510...sort=submitted

Aug 28, 2009, 07:49 pm	#24 (permalink)
DJK Molten Ash Posts: 44	Quantum theory works but is not complete, even the greatest minds cant agree so I am going to hold off on my beliefs about this untill there is more concrete science........ Is this what you mean though....ie. I suspect that like a billard ball on a frictionless pockectless pool table that every action has a measurable reaction. Only we live in 3 or more dimensions not 2 and the variables of cause and effect are astronomical. That doesnt mean with a big enough computer you couldnt crunch the numbers and determine every event down to the very sub atomic particles all the way up to the macro world which includes the brains and minds of all who existed and all they have affected. Only it would be really really really hard to do and time doesnt wait for the numbers to crunch out..it keeps churning out more data. With such a super computer could you completely reconstruct the past to at least a practical virtual reality level??? I had though about this..and if some advance aliens could have done this or God as we define him??? and then by sheer chance I watched stanley kubricks AI and thats sort of what the aliens did at the end with some corny hollywood twists. as for the chicken and the egg...I have a theory...LOL evolution would have a common ancestor to the chicken..we'll call him the chucken or neander-chicken but the word egg is commonly used for many different species including prehistorical ones...so there was an egg even before the chucken mutated enough for us to consider it a full fledged chicken!

Aug 29, 2009, 06:45 pm	#27 (permalink)
The Black Ghost Emperor Posts: 776 Blog Entries: 1	You could also get on a ship traveling at the speed of light, and come back to Earth in a few years and just pretend you were in cryonic suspension If evil is my enemy, then I will fight against it. If evil is on my side, then evil is my friend. If it is simply the way of all human nature, are we then all evil?

Aug 30, 2009, 11:21 am	#28 (permalink)
Robert Marsh II The Iceman Cometh Location: Georgia Posts: 335 Blog Entries: 50	Reply to Black Ghost + Progressive Cryonics Research > Reply to Black Ghost : Black Ghost; With the fabric of space/time expanding and accelerating, thus expanding and accelerating time in its wake, then your trip at the speed of light will soon only take a matter of a few months, when it used to take several years!!! Some argue that time is slowing down; however, our human perception of time across all age ranges of polled individuals is showing that : "Time is speeding up, with only short intervals of slowing down". There is an anomaly occuring, and since the mass of the Earth or Sun is not decreasing drastically, then the most likely cause to be observed is in the fabric of space/time itself. If we could measure time and space with a ruler, and since that ruler would be subject to the same laws of expansion and acceleration, then the ruler would show 'NO' change measurable, but in reality these changes would actually exist. Is Time Speeding Up? * Note: Just posted this C2NN article : Oh Dear, Is Time Speeding Up? - Care2 News Network ----------- >>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>> > New Post : Cryonics research is progressing toward more effective experimental procedures, insuring less scientific advancement to be needed, in the reanimation of those who have chosen cryopreservation. THE HIPPOCAMPAL SLICE CRYOPRESERVATION PROJECT Obama's Economic Failure? http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/obamarebuildnow/ My News http://www.care2.com/news/member/510...sort=submitted

Aug 31, 2009, 10:51 am	#29 (permalink)
Robert Marsh II The Iceman Cometh Location: Georgia Posts: 335 Blog Entries: 50	Blind Optimism v/s Scientific Inevitability The scientific community must keep-in-check the self-dooming quality of blind optimism concerning the field of modern cryonics, and yet it appears that cryonic resuscitation in the future has become truly inevitable. Cryonics and philosophy of science Obama's Economic Failure? http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/obamarebuildnow/ My News http://www.care2.com/news/member/510...sort=submitted

Aug 31, 2009, 06:03 pm	#30 (permalink)
Robert Marsh II The Iceman Cometh Location: Georgia Posts: 335 Blog Entries: 50	Cryonics Meets Medicine There have been a multitude of legal battles from state to state and country to country, bringing cryonics into a direct confrontation with the medical laws within their jurisdiction. Cryonic embalming is still felt by many professionals to be illegal, causing the struggle to continue. Cryonics Meets Medicine: Embalming and Cryonics Obama's Economic Failure? http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/obamarebuildnow/ My News http://www.care2.com/news/member/510...sort=submitted

Sep 1, 2009, 12:40 am	#31 (permalink)
Robert Marsh II The Iceman Cometh Location: Georgia Posts: 335 Blog Entries: 50	Cryonic and Cryobiology Reference Links Many websites contain cryonics and cryobiology reference resource links : Google Directory - Science > Biology > Cryobiology > Cryonics Obama's Economic Failure? http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/obamarebuildnow/ My News http://www.care2.com/news/member/510...sort=submitted

Sep 2, 2009, 12:47 am	#32 (permalink)
Robert Marsh II The Iceman Cometh Location: Georgia Posts: 335 Blog Entries: 50	News & Links > Information Series Here is some cryonics fuel for thought and discussion. I intend to post news and information links as they become available. Cryonics Nanomedicine by Robert Freitas The Cryonics Society: News And Information Obama's Economic Failure? http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/obamarebuildnow/ My News http://www.care2.com/news/member/510...sort=submitted

Sep 2, 2009, 08:37 pm	#33 (permalink)
Robert Marsh II The Iceman Cometh Location: Georgia Posts: 335 Blog Entries: 50	Alcor Information There are two major cryonics organizations available : #1. The Cryonics Institute #2. Alcor I have covered the Cryonics Institute, and here is some Alcor information coverage. Alcor.org - Alcor Life Extension by Cryonics \| Visit alcor.org Cryonics: Alcor Life Extension Foundation Obama's Economic Failure? http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/obamarebuildnow/ My News http://www.care2.com/news/member/510...sort=submitted

Sep 3, 2009, 06:00 pm	#34 (permalink)
Robert Marsh II The Iceman Cometh Location: Georgia Posts: 335 Blog Entries: 50	Transhumanism: What are the Dangers & Benefits? Cryonics is currently involved with the Transhumanism evolution of mankind, in regard to the life extension process. The general population needs to stay on guard against government manipulation of this pure evolutionist movement! Transhumanism is held by most individuals to be a beautiful futuristic vision of Transtopia. A future world where humans never die, and are augmented by machines (robotics and computers), chemistry, nanotechnology, and biological enhancement, made complete with self-governing freedoms. It is up to us here today, to take an affirmative action approach to the situation, and begin to participate in these futuristic selections, that are taking place right now! The following is not only a look at Transhumanism, but also gives the observer the chance to become an active part of the 21st century discussions in progress. mi2g Transhumanism: What are the Dangers and Benefits? - Care2 News Network Obama's Economic Failure? http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/obamarebuildnow/ My News http://www.care2.com/news/member/510...sort=submitted

Sep 5, 2009, 10:41 am	#35 (permalink)
Robert Marsh II The Iceman Cometh Location: Georgia Posts: 335 Blog Entries: 50	Arthur C. Clark and Cryonics Arthur C. Clark assisted with Alcor's cryonics legal battles by first approving of this practice, and by furthermore attempting to establish an estimated probability of eventual cryo-patient resuscitation in the far future. There seems to be two major public reactions toward human cryonics suspension --- many people have a strong belief in its ultimate success, while still many others maintain very serious doubts. > Article Link Excerpt : To many people, the demonstration of the technical feasibility of cryonics is not sufficient to make cryonics arrangements for themselves. Although cryonics can be presented as an advanced form of critical care medicine, one important difference between conventional medical treatment and cryonics is the duration of care, during which the patient is not conscious. As a consequence, contemporary cryonics is intrinsically tied to resuscitation in a far, and unknown, future. While this may be part of its appeal to some, it seems to produce feelings of angst and vulnerability in many others. This is not a trivial matter and needs careful thought by those offering cryonics services. Arthur C. Clark and cryonics Obama's Economic Failure? http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/obamarebuildnow/ My News http://www.care2.com/news/member/510...sort=submitted

Sep 7, 2009, 12:08 am	#36 (permalink)
Robert Marsh II The Iceman Cometh Location: Georgia Posts: 335 Blog Entries: 50	Debate Paves Way to the Future Debate provides information and raises public awareness levels in order to pave a way forward, and can even perhaps resolve the seemingly impossible cryonics issues at hand, that can actually create a positive future outcome. > Information & Skeptic Debate : YouTube - CNN Crossfire Ted Williams Cryonics Debate July 2002 Part 1 CRYONICS − FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS (FAQ) Cryonics Institute Member Resources DEBATES ABOUT CRYONICS WITH SKEPTICS CryoNet - Cryonics Mailing List Obama's Economic Failure? http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/obamarebuildnow/ My News http://www.care2.com/news/member/510...sort=submitted

Sep 8, 2009, 08:00 am	#37 (permalink)
Robert Marsh II The Iceman Cometh Location: Georgia Posts: 335 Blog Entries: 50	Legal Debate: "Cryonics and Embalming" One of the largest and most persisting legal debates within the world of cryonics is: >>>> Are cryonics facilities illegally 'embalming' without proper liscensing? Each state or province has their own set of established laws, and these facilities are not embalming with standard embalming fluids, but rather 'embalming' with glycerol antifreeze (a cryopreservation technique) --- under improper licensing --- so many professionals argue! Latest » Embalming and Cryonics =========== Additional Reference Material for Previous Post Entry #36 : > Part 1 : YouTube - CNN Crossfire Ted Williams Cryonics Debate July 2002 Part 1 > Part 2 : YouTube - CNN Crossfire Ted Williams Cryonics Debate July 2002 Part 2 Obama's Economic Failure? http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/obamarebuildnow/ My News http://www.care2.com/news/member/510...sort=submitted

Sep 8, 2009, 08:46 am	#38 (permalink)
Robert Marsh II The Iceman Cometh Location: Georgia Posts: 335 Blog Entries: 50	Debate Dedication & Cryonics Overview This debate has been inspired by and dedicated to Dr. Robert C.W. Ettinger - The Father of Modern Cryonics Engineering. *Debate Dedication - Living Tribute to: Dr. Robert C.W. Ettinger: Robert C.W. Ettinger: The Father of Modern Cryonic Human Preservation \| Care2 Share Cryonics Overview : Cryonics Obama's Economic Failure? http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/obamarebuildnow/ My News http://www.care2.com/news/member/510...sort=submitted

Sep 12, 2009, 02:27 pm	#39 (permalink)
Robert Marsh II The Iceman Cometh Location: Georgia Posts: 335 Blog Entries: 50	A Growing Body of Cryo-Resuscitation Literature As humanity advances forward scientifically, the optimism for successful cryonics resuscitation in the future increases; while the negative skeptic outlook decreases proportionately. Revival of cryonics patients literature 21st Century Waves » Immortality — An Ebullient 21st Century Technology That’s to Die For! Cryonics Meets Medicine: Suspended Animation's Medication Protocol Obama's Economic Failure? http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/obamarebuildnow/ My News http://www.care2.com/news/member/510...sort=submitted

Sep 16, 2009, 09:00 am	#40 (permalink)
Robert Marsh II The Iceman Cometh Location: Georgia Posts: 335 Blog Entries: 50	Mr. Freeze / Dr. Robert C.W. Ettinger Comparisons I have seriously speculated for some time now, that the D.C. comic book creation of the notorious supervillain Mr. Freeze, created by Bob Kane, was truly inspired by the real-life drama of Dr. Robert C.W. Ettinger - physics professor & father of the modern global cryonics movement. > Living Tribute to: Dr. Robert C.W. Ettinger: Robert C.W. Ettinger: The Father of Modern Cryonic Human Preservation \| Care2 Share The existing time-period lines up, and the biographical parallels are eye-catching! Someone inspired something, that's for sure! BATMAN ON FILM -- "A History of The Batman: MR. FREEZE" Mr. Freeze - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Mr. Freeze: Information from Answers.com YouTube - Mr Freeze, Heart of Ice (Batman TAS) YouTube - Batman and Robin (1997) Full movie - Part 1/13 Obama's Economic Failure? http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/obamarebuildnow/ My News http://www.care2.com/news/member/510...sort=submitted Last edited by Robert Marsh II; Sep 16, 2009 at 10:22 am.