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**Sean** · Aug 27, 2004, 01:11 pm

http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/science/08/27...t.ap/index.html

LONDON, England (AP) -- A German who had his lower jaw cut out because of cancer has enjoyed his first meal in nine years -- a bratwurst sandwich -- after surgeons grew a new jaw bone in his back muscle and transplanted it to his mouth in what experts call an "ambitious'' experiment.

According to this week's issue of The Lancet medical journal, the German doctors used a mesh cage, a growth chemical and the patient's own bone marrow, containing stem cells, to create a new jaw bone that fit exactly into the gap left by the cancer surgery.

Tests have not been done yet to verify whether the bone was created by the blank-slate stem cells and it is too early to tell whether the jaw will function normally in the long term.

But the operation is the first published report of a whole bone being engineered and incubated inside a patient's body and transplanted.

Stem cells are the master cells of the body that go on to become every tissue in the body. They are a hot area of research with scientists trying to find ways to prompt them to make desired tissues, and perhaps organs.

continued: http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/science/08/27...t.ap/index.html

LogicaLunatic · Aug 27, 2004, 02:02 pm

Catholics say: "Jaw bones? We don't need no stinking jaw bones!"

SeanG · Aug 27, 2004, 02:37 pm

Taken from Drudge

Doctors Grow New Jaw Bone in Man's Back...
http://cnn.space.printthis.clickability.co...&partnerID=2018

Comrade · Aug 27, 2004, 09:39 pm

That is so awesome. Science rules.

Just wait until we figure out how to grow meat on trees. Good-bye, PETA.

**Pooeypants** · Aug 30, 2004, 07:35 pm

Good news for that fella, must read up.
Though is there really any organisation opposed to this bit of Stem cell research?

Comrade · Aug 30, 2004, 10:18 pm

Pooey, there's 2 types of stem cell research, fetal and adult. So far, adult stem cell research has cured 80 diseases, fetal has cured zero. That's why the government was subsidizing it in the first place, no company is going to invest in something that can't cure anything (fetal stem cell research).
The article says they grew the new bone out of his own bone marrow, thus, adult stem cells.
Fetal stem cells is what people are opposed to.

LogicaLunatic · Aug 31, 2004, 12:23 am

Bah we can get fetal stem cells from cord blood. People aren't opposed to that. What they're against is using stem cells (fetal or adult) to create zygotes from which to extract even more stem cells.

Also, do you have a link Comrade of the successes and failures of both types? Where did you get your info?

Interested,

LL

**Pooeypants** · Aug 31, 2004, 05:06 am

Quote:

Originally posted by Comrade,
Pooey, there's 2 types of stem cell research, fetal and adult. So far, adult stem cell research has cured 80 diseases, fetal has cured zero. That's why the government was subsidizing it in the first place, no company is going to invest in something that can't cure anything (fetal stem cell research).
The article says they grew the new bone out of his own bone marrow, thus, adult stem cells.
Fetal stem cells is what people are opposed to.

I'd like to see the source to those claims please.

Compugasm · Aug 31, 2004, 07:38 am

I also heard fetal research is allowed by private companies, just not govt ones. So, the "govt ban" only applies to governmental agencies. Religious issue maybe. By govt supporting, or not support the research it could be said govt is making religious based decisions, whatever.

Aug 27, 2004, 01:11 pm	#1 (permalink) (top)
Sean former overlord Location: New York Posts: 2,383	http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/science/08/27...t.ap/index.html LONDON, England (AP) -- A German who had his lower jaw cut out because of cancer has enjoyed his first meal in nine years -- a bratwurst sandwich -- after surgeons grew a new jaw bone in his back muscle and transplanted it to his mouth in what experts call an "ambitious'' experiment. According to this week's issue of The Lancet medical journal, the German doctors used a mesh cage, a growth chemical and the patient's own bone marrow, containing stem cells, to create a new jaw bone that fit exactly into the gap left by the cancer surgery. Tests have not been done yet to verify whether the bone was created by the blank-slate stem cells and it is too early to tell whether the jaw will function normally in the long term. But the operation is the first published report of a whole bone being engineered and incubated inside a patient's body and transplanted. Stem cells are the master cells of the body that go on to become every tissue in the body. They are a hot area of research with scientists trying to find ways to prompt them to make desired tissues, and perhaps organs. continued: http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/science/08/27...t.ap/index.html So it goes

Aug 27, 2004, 02:02 pm	#2 (permalink) (top)
LogicaLunatic Hrm... Location: MN Posts: 445	Catholics say: "Jaw bones? We don't need no stinking jaw bones!" "Statistics show that of those who contract the habit of eating, very few survive." -- Wallace Irwin

Aug 27, 2004, 02:37 pm	#3 (permalink) (top)
SeanG Molten Ash Location: In a Chair Posts: 93	Taken from Drudge Doctors Grow New Jaw Bone in Man's Back... http://cnn.space.printthis.clickability.co...&partnerID=2018 All truth is relative! (Is that a relative truth?); There are no absolutes! (Are you absolutely sure?); Its true for you but not for me! (Is that statement true just for you, or is it for everyone?)

Aug 27, 2004, 09:39 pm	#4 (permalink) (top)
Comrade Hot Lava Location: Texas Posts: 1,229	That is so awesome. Science rules. Just wait until we figure out how to grow meat on trees. Good-bye, PETA. Oh, it's really too bad, isn't it? -- http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/050121/480/watw10701210224 Hahaha, that's funny. Liberals are so silly!

Aug 30, 2004, 07:35 pm	#5 (permalink) (top)
Pooeypants Neo Moderator Location: England Posts: 5,609	Good news for that fella, must read up. Though is there really any organisation opposed to this bit of Stem cell research? War is Peace Freedom is Slavery Ignorance is strength Harness the power of Ingsoc, then you can capture someone killed the year before

Aug 30, 2004, 10:18 pm	#6 (permalink) (top)
Comrade Hot Lava Location: Texas Posts: 1,229	Pooey, there's 2 types of stem cell research, fetal and adult. So far, adult stem cell research has cured 80 diseases, fetal has cured zero. That's why the government was subsidizing it in the first place, no company is going to invest in something that can't cure anything (fetal stem cell research). The article says they grew the new bone out of his own bone marrow, thus, adult stem cells. Fetal stem cells is what people are opposed to. Oh, it's really too bad, isn't it? -- http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/050121/480/watw10701210224 Hahaha, that's funny. Liberals are so silly!

Aug 31, 2004, 12:23 am	#7 (permalink) (top)
LogicaLunatic Hrm... Location: MN Posts: 445	Bah we can get fetal stem cells from cord blood. People aren't opposed to that. What they're against is using stem cells (fetal or adult) to create zygotes from which to extract even more stem cells. Also, do you have a link Comrade of the successes and failures of both types? Where did you get your info? Interested, LL "Statistics show that of those who contract the habit of eating, very few survive." -- Wallace Irwin

Aug 31, 2004, 07:38 am	#9 (permalink) (top)
Compugasm Son of X51 Location: San Diego Posts: 3,780	I also heard fetal research is allowed by private companies, just not govt ones. So, the "govt ban" only applies to governmental agencies. Religious issue maybe. By govt supporting, or not support the research it could be said govt is making religious based decisions, whatever. Death to Videodrome! Long live The New flesh!