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Old Apr 3, 2008, 09:14 am   #1 (permalink) (top)
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Regulation of Internet

Internet is growing rapidly in this modern age. But the liberal usage of Internet has led to a lot of immoral and crminal activities, Thus, here I think that Internet regulation should be implemented for the benefits of the world at large. Do you agree?
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Old Apr 3, 2008, 09:22 am   #2 (permalink) (top)
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I disagree, the internet should not be regulated. It is man's last sanctuary, and enforcing conflicting laws on a global forum will strip away every freedom we have on the internet. For those in favor of regulating the crimes committed online to protect innocent people, if they're dumb enough to fall for an email scan, download a trojan, or don't properly secure their networks then they have no place online to begin with.


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Old Apr 3, 2008, 09:41 am   #3 (permalink) (top)
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Ya, that may be true, but as you say it's the last sanctuary for us human beings, therefore it should be regulated to protect it from the pollution of bad ideas and dark activities going on in the Internet. As we can see,say for example, people use Internet to make friends. What if the person that our teenagers have been communicating to, is a paedophile or even a rapist, a murderer, a bastard who cheats people for money? shouldn't pornography websites, terrorism websites, and other negative websites be baned for the greater good? Shouldn't Internet regulation be implemented?
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Old Apr 3, 2008, 10:06 am   #4 (permalink) (top)
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Children shouldn't talk to strangers. Pornography is an exercise of freedom of speech. A murderer should be in jail, this has nothing to do with the internet. Cheating people for money falls under my post of "if you're too dumb stay off the internet". The greater good benefits by taking responsibility for their own decisions and growing a few brain cells. If they're children, then it's the PARENTS job to regulate them, not the government's.


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Old Apr 3, 2008, 10:23 am   #5 (permalink) (top)
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Whose will or sense of morality gets enforced? Should we remove from the internet those things that offend the Muslims, the Christians, the atheists? Who gets to decide? Then, how do we enforce regulation on a global network? How can laws passed in one country be enforced on servers in another?

The internet is self-regulating. It's truly open source. Those that attempt to corrupt the internet are exposed on the internet.


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Old Apr 3, 2008, 01:15 pm   #6 (permalink) (top)
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Whose will or sense of morality gets enforced?
Should we remove from the internet those things that offend
the Muslims, the Christians, the atheists?
I believe in free speech due to my strong sense of justice. It would be wrong to censor the internet.

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Old Apr 3, 2008, 03:06 pm   #7 (permalink) (top)
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Who decides what benefits the world at large?


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Old Apr 3, 2008, 05:45 pm   #8 (permalink) (top)
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Leaving the internet alone would benefit the world at large. All people seem to focus in on is that there are some bad bad people using the internet, meanwhile they ignore the billions of people that use the internet without doing anything wrong. Infringing on the masses ability to use the net just because of a few bad eggs isn't right.


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Old Apr 3, 2008, 08:16 pm   #9 (permalink) (top)
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All ages of people have to be educated on what the internet is, to avoid being getting taken advantage of. No amount of regulation will help, because there will always be a way to circumvent the laws. I'd also like to note that any "bad people" who use the internet, are automatically entering the most traceable place to conduct their activities. IP addresses are logged, chats saved, access records are kept.

I would say, the argument isn't that more regulation is required, but the "authorities" whoever they are, simply don't react appropriately when they are alerted. At least, they don't react the way they would, say if you weren't wearing a seatbelt, or your car registration was out of date. That is why scammers and theives are effective on the internet.


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Old Apr 3, 2008, 08:19 pm   #10 (permalink) (top)
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It's only a matter of time. Some things already are. Child porn is likely to be vigorously investigated with the cooperation of ISP's until the perpetrators caught.

We will remember this time with great fondness decades hence. As soon as governments figure out a way to get the laws passed and enforced it will be done.
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Old Apr 3, 2008, 08:33 pm   #11 (permalink) (top)
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It's only a matter of time.
Some things already are.
They had enough of our money to get it built. I'm sure they can afford to regulate it.

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Old Apr 4, 2008, 05:44 am   #12 (permalink) (top)
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But without regulation, the Internet will become a place where all evil breeds, where the bad guys commit crimes, terrorists communists propagate their idealism. Internet is be useful, very beneficial no less, therefore it should be protected, as the sanctuary of human knowledge and as the best mean of communication.
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Old Apr 4, 2008, 06:32 am   #13 (permalink) (top)
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The Internet is controlled by the operators of the Internic (which coordinates the database for domain names). Which is in turn owned by SAIC, an employee-owned military-industrial conglomerate. Even in the virtual world game hype, any financial transactions over $10 are analyzed. Just as in the real world, internet companies are required to report suspicious behavior. Again, any "bad people" who use the internet, are automatically entering the most traceable place to conduct their activities. The failure isn't regulation, but the "authorities" don't consider internet crimes serious.


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Old Apr 4, 2008, 09:29 am   #14 (permalink) (top)
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Paranoia time ... rather than being seen as something to control, the Internet could be seen as a tool for surveillance, if governments can ascertain what people are looking at and downloading, it would give a them lot of information about that person.


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Old Apr 4, 2008, 09:56 am   #15 (permalink) (top)
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But without regulation, the Internet will become a place where all evil breeds, where the bad guys commit crimes, terrorists communists propagate their idealism. Internet is be useful, very beneficial no less, therefore it should be protected, as the sanctuary of human knowledge and as the best mean of communication.

I find your comment regarding communists propagating their idealism just a little disturbing. This sanctuary of human knowledge, would it not include works like Das Kapital or The Communist Manifesto?


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Old Apr 4, 2008, 10:07 am   #16 (permalink) (top)
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Good point walrus, we have become so concerned with protecting the internet that people lose sight of the value in it.


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Old Apr 4, 2008, 12:09 pm   #17 (permalink) (top)
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Let each country implement their own standard in regulating the internet and only those who live in it be punished according to each country law.
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Old Apr 4, 2008, 12:15 pm   #18 (permalink) (top)
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That's pretty much what China and North Korea are attempting to do. But there are ways around their blockades. The servers that make up the backbone of the internet are located in a variety of countries. That makes regulating just a part of the internet impractical.


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Old Apr 4, 2008, 01:03 pm   #19 (permalink) (top)
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And it should also be noted that their is major controversy in allowing China to filter the internet and censor anything it deems dangerous to the leaders. With all this controversy about China regulating the internet I cant comprehend why people are saying it's fine to regulate the internet, wouldn't that make them hypocrites?


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Old Apr 5, 2008, 10:42 am   #20 (permalink) (top)
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Looking at what we have been discussing all along, basically to judge it as a whole, Internet should not be regulated outweighs it should be. But as far as i can see, there is no very clear outline of the points.. lol.. like any other debates, it's more of opinions and rebuttals.. lol. Anymore contribution? They would be very much appreciated. Tq.
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