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Old Oct 11, 2007, 01:15 pm   #21 (permalink) (top)
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Didn't some cult already try to do this, by cutting off their wangs, and killing themselves so they can be transported up to some alien ship?

Kinda sounds like the same thing, only waiting to be chucked into a black hole..... in which may turn your wang inside out, being equal to slicing it off
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Old Oct 11, 2007, 01:37 pm   #22 (permalink) (top)
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Spaghettification - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Your center of mass is always in freefall, but unfortunately the rest of you is not. As you first approach, your hair trails along behind you as its dragged along by your toes. Your toes begin to rocket downward, and while your head is rocketing too its rocketing to a slightly lesser extent and the force necessary to keep it up to speed has to be transmitted via your spine. If your toes are at one million Earth gravities and your head is only at 999,900 Earth gravities its easy to see how the force being transmitted by your spine could be lethal. The actual math is more complicated because the tides are acting along a gradient through your body, but the results are pretty much the same.
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Well who am I to argue with Stephen Hawking? Oh wait.... Me.....

The issue with this explaination is they are talking about, as an example on that link, four seperate objects entering one gravitational pull, resulting in each being pulled at different amounts...... but we as humans are one solid object. My arms and legs are attached to me.... the example they show would be closer to watching four different humans being pulled at different amounts.

I remember studying gravitation pull a few years back, but on order for something to actually rip you apart, those gravitational effects would have to be contained in the same space as one another and be equal, yet opposite. Once you hit one gravitational pull, you are over powered and pulled into that one.

In other words, if I was out in space, floating around in a space suit and I was directly between two equally sized moons, their combined gravitational pulls would cancel each other out in the middle, and I would have to move one way or another for one of the forces to affect me.

Now in regards to a black hole where the gravitational pull is extreme in a small space compared to the overall mass...... I dunno..... I'm looking at the numbers, I'm reading the explinations, but they don't add up to me.... and it seems more like a common accepted explination, rather then actual fact.

In other words, I'm not saying it's all wrong, but I don't believe we know enough about black holes just yet to make a claim as above in the wiki article.

To me, something about the enitre explination doesn't add up to my personal collective of understanding what goes on in this universe.

Maybe I'm missing something, but it doesn't make enough sense to me to be true. I feel they're close to how it works, but I strongly feel there is a key part missing in this whole concept. I can't explain it yet..... but I will.

To me, they seem to be focusing on one part of the black hole and they're missing other very important factors.... maybe this will be my discovery in life to figure out... because I'm listening to their explinations, and they just don't add up..... in some kind of logic it does, but there's still soemthing missing.... I can feel it.
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Old Oct 11, 2007, 03:53 pm   #23 (permalink) (top)
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You're clearly getting close to understanding. There is a point where the gravity from the two moons cancels out. However, an astronaut is not a point so while he/she could be balanced between the two moons around that point there will always be tides.

Oh, and if you want even more to read:

Tidal force - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And that's about all I have to say about tides.


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