Are you "On" to OnStar?

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So let's say I'm an onstar engineer who has the ability to listen to any conversation in any car and rig the system to cover my tracks. The company trusts me to just keep the system running, but let's assume I want more and either am not prone to guilt or my targets "deserve" whatever they get. What could I listen to?

- Conversations in limos between investors and brokers. Then I can trade with insider info, as long as I switch investors enough to prevent a pattern from being detected.

- Conversations in my family and friend's cars. Then I can get all the dirt and use it as leverage, as long as I am subtle.

- Trade secrets, to make a few bucks doing some corporate espionage.

All of the above can be said for people with trust and access to mobile phones too.

I don't have any problem with onstar or mobile phones as long as the users choose them. The problem is when there is no choice to turn them off.

[Osborn F Enready]

triad said: Or, you can realize that it is a service, meant to help grandma find her way to the nearest Sobey's, or get her keys out of her locked escalade. I think you're blowing this way out of proportion and everyone needs to take a second to think about this - if On-Star saves 500 lives a year by eliminating high-speed chases (via disabling the horsepower with on-star), is your paranoia blinding you from the simplicity behind on-star?

I know its a service, hence the reason I said I WOULD NEVER OWN a vehicle with it, nor am I fond of computer controlled cars.

I am a conspiracy theorist because I don't like microphones I can't monitor when they are on or off, in my private property?

Ok, I guess that I am a conspiracy theorist then.

Triad said: The government will always have a way to monitor you, but does the good behind on-star or other technologies like it not balance it out?

I am not anti-technology.
I am not anti-On Star.

I am pro privacy, so I wouldn't support the idea with a return from my money.

Triad said: Or what is your end opinion? Should we just say no to on-star?

I think if people have the money, and they want to have it, let them eat cake. I, have a right not to, and won't.

Triad said: The funny part is - I would never pay to have it. I know my grandma would love it - and fortunately, she isn't wanted by police.

Hey, I was thinking the same thing, and some dude named Triad was harping on me for it.

Tivo said: Umm, why? Also, have fun driving only cars made before 1982...

Ok.

As far as why, because I am not a fan of computer controlled cars, or fly by wire technology, unless I built it with my own hands.

Mechanical problems can be fixed through fabrication using local material, whereas, electronics problems, wherever you are, usually leave you high and dry. (hope you don't have an import if that happens, on a trip, and the nearest town is population 15.)

I respect new stuff, and I like computers. I just don't like allowing my life to depend on computers, and avoid it.

[triad]

Quote by: Osborn F Enready I know its a service, hence the reason I said I WOULD NEVER OWN a vehicle with it, nor am I fond of computer controlled cars.

Ah yes, agreed.

I am a conspiracy theorist because I don't like microphones I can't monitor when they are on or off, in my private property?

Also agreed. However, I still believe, or at least hope - my government will respect my rights as a Canadian citizen and leave my fucking onstar mic alone! If I am wishing for too much - then fuck you Stephen Harper!

Ok, I guess that I am a conspiracy theorist then.

Nice :)

I am not anti-technology. I am not anti-On Star.

I see where this is going...

I am pro privacy, so I wouldn't support the idea with a return from my money.

Well, if our governments will take advantage of us via cell phone or onstar, shall we start a revolution? C'mon, you kick my prime minister in the balls and I'll punch your president in the face!

I think if people have the money, and they want to have it, let them eat cake. I, have a right not to, and won't.

Cake

Hey, I was thinking the same thing, and some dude named Triad was harping on me for it.

Well he has the same name as me, and he sounds like an ass.