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SoylentGreen · Sep 2, 2007, 02:46 pm

This link gives a good example of what metric time is

A Guide To Metric Time

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Metric Time (MT) is an attempt to create a decimalized time system for our modern base-10 using world.

The most popular unit system (it seems to have been reinvented a number of times) is the one instituted in France during the Revolution along with the Metric System. This system uses hours, minutes, and seconds like ABT but redefines their lengths:
French Revolutionary Metric Time Amount Description
10 metric hours in a day
100 metric minutes in a metric hour
100 metric seconds in a metric minute
10 days in a metric week (called a dekade)

The time we use now is based on the Babylonian system,
Isn't it time we updated our concept after all it is the 21 century.

Kuldeep · Sep 3, 2007, 06:40 am

If we want to go meteric system of time main problem arise relation between day and the year. The ratio of rotation and revolution should have been one tenth or one hundredth or one thousandth. It is none, but is one 365.25th.

Of course, keeping time period of one day fixed, 10 days could be made equal to 1 week. 10 hours equal to one day, while readjusting time period of seconds it might be possible to fix minute and hour in new metric system of time. If my calculation are correct, equation of current time units and metric time units would be as:

Current mertric

1 year = 1 year
1.2 month = 1 month
1.43 weeks = 1 week
1 day = 1 day
2.4 hrs = 1 hr
14.4 mts = 1 mt.
86.4secs = 1 Sec

Calculations might be wrong ! Also relation between weeks and months are to be confirmed.

Enlightenee · Sep 3, 2007, 07:45 am

I personally don't believe it will be adopted. It is too great a change and people are generally adverse to change, hence Bush in power and Howard in power.
Plus those calculations that Kuldeep put down make it sound awfully long. 86 and a half seconds in one metric second? Lol, well i suppose you could really be there in a second then :)

Milton Bradley · Sep 4, 2007, 04:36 pm

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I personally don't believe it will be adopted. It is too great a change and people are generally adverse to change, hence Bush in power and Howard in power.
Plus those calculations that Kuldeep put down make it sound awfully long. 86 and a half seconds in one metric second? Lol, well i suppose you could really be there in a second then :)

Yeah, that does seem a radical departure from what we're used to.

Me no like, Metric Time Bad!

shrike · Sep 4, 2007, 04:46 pm

I see it a lot in various science fiction books.It might be adopted in future societies but not now becouse we so much divided.

Milton Bradley · Sep 4, 2007, 05:26 pm

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I see it a lot in various science fiction books.It might be adopted in future societies but not now becouse we so much divided.

Yeah, because we all want life to be like sci-fi...:rolleyes:

I think that might be part of the problem we have today, too many people are comfortable with the concept of a benevolent overlord, and all the technological intrusions that overlord would have to make to informed about our actions.

I think that prevents me from enjoying a lot of sci-fi.

phoenix_fire · Sep 4, 2007, 05:28 pm

Ten days in a week? That would be maddening. That'd be an 8-day work week. :(

phoenix_fire · Sep 4, 2007, 05:30 pm

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Yeah, because we all want life to be like sci-fi...:rolleyes:

I think that might be part of the problem we have today, too many people are comfortable with the concept of a benevolent overlord, and all the technological intrusions that overlord would have to make to informed about our actions.

I think that prevents me from enjoying a lot of sci-fi.

Resistance is futile, MB. Your biological distinctiveness will be added to our own.

SoylentGreen · Sep 4, 2007, 06:17 pm

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Ten days in a week? That would be maddening. That'd be an 8-day work week. :(

Or a 5 day holiday.

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I see it a lot in various science fiction books.It might be adopted in future societies but not now becouse we so much divided.

Possibly why you haven't as yet changed over to metric weights.

Its not as difficult as you imagine. I have been through two metric changes, one with weights and distance and the other in money converting from pounds and pence to dollars and cents.
There was at first the grumblings from the oldies along the line of good enough for my father, good enough for me type arguments, but it did not take as long to acclimatise as you might think.
Changing time would be along the same lines , it would take a bit of adjustment at first but people will quickly adapt.
Within a generation it will be normal and accepted.

And it is a lot easier to work out different times in a base ten than a base 60

Milton Bradley · Sep 4, 2007, 07:13 pm

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Ten days in a week? That would be maddening. That'd be an 8-day work week. :(

Ha!

What is this assumption of a two day weekend.

Pft...

Milton Bradley · Sep 4, 2007, 07:16 pm

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Resistance is futile, MB. Your biological distinctiveness will be added to our own.

Hehehe, pack a lunch sweetie.

Besides, what makes you think I'm distinct?

Milton Bradley · Sep 4, 2007, 07:21 pm

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And it is a lot easier to work out different times in a base ten than a base 60

Now wait a minute, is this really a problem?

Us "oldies" as you call us, used to have this strange desire to guage the possible benefit of a new idea before adopting the change.

In other words, this seems like change just for the sake of change. Whats the selling point?

I'll spare you the "respect your elders speech.

SoylentGreen · Sep 4, 2007, 07:45 pm

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In other words, this seems like change just for the sake of change. Whats the selling point?

Well america has a lot of catching up to do where using decimal systems are concerned. But most of the world now uses decimal and it would seem consistant to convert time to that as well.
It is easier to work in base 10. Computers use decimal time.
Its not a problem as such just a matter of convienience which is probably why it is not considered seriously.

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I'll spare you the "respect your elders speech

Good saves me the trouble of muttering something like , silly old fart

Milton Bradley · Sep 4, 2007, 07:57 pm

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Good saves me the trouble of muttering something like , silly old fart

Retract the "silly" part, and I'll gladly admit the other fault.

DEEJ85 · Sep 4, 2007, 08:34 pm

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Resistance is futile, MB. Your biological distinctiveness will be added to our own.

Am I the only one that caught the star trek reference? Or is it that no one cares about it?

We are a dying breed PF

Milton Bradley · Sep 4, 2007, 09:40 pm

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Am I the only one that caught the star trek reference?

No, there are other geeks here.

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Or is it that no one cares about it?

Ah, now you're narrowing the field.

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We are a dying breed PF

Eh, I doubt it. It certainly doesn't help that Shatner outgrew of his typecasting. That was similar to the devestating shockwave that shook the community like when Marcia left The Brady Bunch.

[/sarcasm]

phoenix_fire · Sep 4, 2007, 11:34 pm

Next Generation generation myself.

ZNFYRH · Sep 5, 2007, 08:02 am

For Metric Time, you would have to literally alter the way clocks work as well as consider modifying our electric cycles. 60 Hz provides great timing for clocks.

In order for the Metric Time to divide perfectly and evenly, the length of a second would have to change.

SoylentGreen · Sep 5, 2007, 01:01 pm

When they converted our money they had to change the bills and all the cash registers.
As well with weights they needed to change the scales.
Modifying electric cycles wouldn't be that difficult and watches can be changed easily as well.
These aren't insurmountable problems and only cause a slight and brief inconvenience to people.
The length of a second to most is arbitrary. People would adapt just as quickly as they adapt in a change to money or weights.

ZNFYRH · Sep 5, 2007, 01:23 pm

What weights and money?

This isn't the same thing.

This is about altering a unit of measurement that has been used for the entirety of recorded history.

From Babylon to Egypt, the second has been mysteriously close to the same amount of time.

The current standard for 1 second is the amount of time for a half-cycle of a 1 meter pendulum on sea level.

Since we derive the length of the basic unit from a metric measurement, how can we alter that in favor of a metric system?

Sep 3, 2007, 07:45 am	#3 (permalink) (top)
Enlightenee Seeking the Truth Location: Australia Posts: 86	I personally don't believe it will be adopted. It is too great a change and people are generally adverse to change, hence Bush in power and Howard in power. Plus those calculations that Kuldeep put down make it sound awfully long. 86 and a half seconds in one metric second? Lol, well i suppose you could really be there in a second then :) Read my blog "Thoughts from all over the world" Don't be afraid to comment either, I not only condone it I encourage it! My Blog

Sep 4, 2007, 05:28 pm	#7 (permalink) (top)
phoenix_fire Paladin Location: Narnia Posts: 4,277	Ten days in a week? That would be maddening. That'd be an 8-day work week. :( Place me like a seal over your heart, like a seal on your arm; for love is as strong as death, its jealousy unyielding as the grave. It burns like blazing fire, like a mighty flame. -- Song 8:6

Sep 4, 2007, 11:34 pm	#17 (permalink) (top)
phoenix_fire Paladin Location: Narnia Posts: 4,277	Next Generation generation myself. Place me like a seal over your heart, like a seal on your arm; for love is as strong as death, its jealousy unyielding as the grave. It burns like blazing fire, like a mighty flame. -- Song 8:6

Sep 5, 2007, 08:02 am	#18 (permalink) (top)
ZNFYRH Volcanic Erupter Posts: 4,375	For Metric Time, you would have to literally alter the way clocks work as well as consider modifying our electric cycles. 60 Hz provides great timing for clocks. In order for the Metric Time to divide perfectly and evenly, the length of a second would have to change. IT'S A BOY!!

Sep 5, 2007, 01:23 pm	#20 (permalink) (top)
ZNFYRH Volcanic Erupter Posts: 4,375	What weights and money? This isn't the same thing. This is about altering a unit of measurement that has been used for the entirety of recorded history. From Babylon to Egypt, the second has been mysteriously close to the same amount of time. The current standard for 1 second is the amount of time for a half-cycle of a 1 meter pendulum on sea level. Since we derive the length of the basic unit from a metric measurement, how can we alter that in favor of a metric system? IT'S A BOY!!

Sep 3, 2007, 06:40 am	#2 (permalink) (top)
Kuldeep Kuldeep Location: Bhopa, M.P, India Posts: 1,659	If we want to go meteric system of time main problem arise relation between day and the year. The ratio of rotation and revolution should have been one tenth or one hundredth or one thousandth. It is none, but is one 365.25th. Of course, keeping time period of one day fixed, 10 days could be made equal to 1 week. 10 hours equal to one day, while readjusting time period of seconds it might be possible to fix minute and hour in new metric system of time. If my calculation are correct, equation of current time units and metric time units would be as: Current mertric 1 year = 1 year 1.2 month = 1 month 1.43 weeks = 1 week 1 day = 1 day 2.4 hrs = 1 hr 14.4 mts = 1 mt. 86.4secs = 1 Sec Calculations might be wrong ! Also relation between weeks and months are to be confirmed.

Sep 4, 2007, 04:46 pm	#5 (permalink) (top)
shrike Volcanic Erupter Location: Israel Posts: 2,756	I see it a lot in various science fiction books.It might be adopted in future societies but not now becouse we so much divided.

Sep 5, 2007, 01:01 pm	#19 (permalink) (top)
SoylentGreen Volcanic Erupter Posts: 2,901	When they converted our money they had to change the bills and all the cash registers. As well with weights they needed to change the scales. Modifying electric cycles wouldn't be that difficult and watches can be changed easily as well. These aren't insurmountable problems and only cause a slight and brief inconvenience to people. The length of a second to most is arbitrary. People would adapt just as quickly as they adapt in a change to money or weights.