Meteorite strike off coast of Georgia 14 Aug 07

[Mr.Vicchio]

I happened to see this while watching the GOES loop. Look of the coast of Georgia, see that ring? Look at these IN ORDER.

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[PatrickHenry]

Cool, Vicchio!

I wonder how big it might have been to show up on satellite as a ring of white water?

[Milton Bradley]

Heh, pretty freakin awesome!


Wonder if there were craft near this incident?

[Mr.Vicchio]

Don't know I know that ring, is NOT a natural weather phenomenon. I'm trying to get someone from Nasa I know to look at it, but he's not answering his phone. The bum.

[5010]

Hmm... I wonder what tool one could use to guage the velocity of the expansion. Frames are 1 hour apart.

[gallo]

Looks like an outflow boundary, a fairly common weather phenomenon.

[Mr.Vicchio]

gallo, I know what an outflow boundary is, and it's going in a near perfect ring, that's fairly rare.

[ZNFYRH]

30 minutes per frame...

The stretch of Georgia coastline on the Atlantic is approx. 100 miles...

At 1415Z that ring is nearly 60 miles at the widest part.

At 1515Z the ring probably has a diameter of almost 100 miles.

[gallo]

Quote by: Mr.Vicchio gallo, I know what an outflow boundary is, and it's going in a near perfect ring, that's fairly rare.

Let me see if I understand you. Because a known weather phenomena is fairly rare, you automatically assume that this is an even rarer occurance, i.e., a meteor that impacted right into that big storm cloud that could have caused an outflow boundary. Have you ever heard of occam's razor? At least show me the news story about the meteor impact.

[Gods_Mercenary]

Cool Pictures either way.

[tivodan1116]

Quote by: ZNFYRH 30 minutes per frame... The stretch of Georgia coastline on the Atlantic is approx. 100 miles... At 1415Z that ring is nearly 60 miles at the widest part. At 1515Z the ring probably has a diameter of almost 100 miles.

So that would be 40mph velocity out from the center.

You know, for a minute I thought this was actually a real post, that there really was a meteorite strike. Then, I googled it and found out that the meteorite strike thing is merely Mr. V's opinion of what it was. Google news has nothing about anything hitting the Atlantic Ocean.

It looks like an outflow boundary to me, too. Big deal.

[ZNFYRH]

tivodan

I didn't want to post mid-research... but I've been doing some math and fluid dynamics to determine how high a 40 MPH tidal wave would be, how thick, etc.

Given the depth of the ocean at that point, you can even determine the size of meteor and speed of the meteor in order to displace that amount of water.

So far the numbers don't jive. Something that big would have gotten some attention.

[Mr.Vicchio]

Most outflow boundaries do not move in a near perfect ring. And I COULD BE WRONG.

I will admit that. But I have been staring at Sat pics for years, and I've never seen an outflow boundary do that, like that.

Granted, it could be, but it's also a damn pretty sequence.

[Jubloz]

There was a meteor shower on the 12th, but I don't know about anything hitting on the 14th. Dunno, I'm skeptical, but if that was actually a meteor strike, well, that'd be pretty friggin' cool.

[Mr.Vicchio]

Well if it was, it was a high altitude hit, that did nothing. If there were no ships out there.. could be anything.

Still it's a freaking beautiful shot.

[tivodan1116]

Maybe someone just got REALLY high, swam out, and blew some WICKED HUGE smoke rings

[gallo]

Quote by: Mr.Vicchio Most outflow boundaries do not move in a near perfect ring. And I COULD BE WRONG.

Yes. You could be.

I will admit that. But I have been staring at Sat pics for years, and I've never seen an outflow boundary do that, like that.

I've see it pointed out by a TV weatherman a couple of times. From what I have read, it isn't all that rare from an isolated storm cell. One meteorologist even described the outflow as moving out from the storm in a generally circular pattern.

Granted, it could be, but it's also a damn pretty sequence.

Sure is. But my point was to ask why reject the most rational, simplest answer in favor of in favor of a flight of fantasy.

By the way, can you see the meteor track in the photos? You are aware that a meteor passing through the atmosphere leaves a track that persists for quite some time, just as the returning space shuttle leaves a track that is quite visible (even more so when it breaks up). Ive seen the shuttle track a couple of times.

[5010]

But if the meteor hits at a steep enough angle, no track, right?

[Mr.Vicchio]

Gallo, because the wind flow patterns were so strong against the circle.

Adn the cell near there didn't seem big enough to create it.

It's fairly common in the tropics, around the doldrums where there is noting going on to interefere with a collapsing cell.

[gallo]

Quote by: Mr.Vicchio Gallo, because the wind flow patterns were so strong against the circle.

How do you know? Are you going by the high altitude wind sheer that blew the top off of the storm and caused the collapse that produced the outflow? Why do you assume that the wind at sea level is of the same intensity and direction as it is at high altitude?

Adn the cell near there didn't seem big enough to create it.

How big does it have to be? That cell would extend more than 3/4 the distance from SC to FL if it were along the coast. I have watched huge storms less than 15 miles away while I stood in sunshine. Later, I was rained on as the outflow boundary passed. Later TV weather radar showed a huge (more than 180 degree) arc of outflow rain. This "rare" occurrence happens several times each summer.

It's fairly common in the tropics, around the doldrums where there is noting going on to interfere with a collapsing cell.

It is also fairly common in Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska and further to the north. Of course, when I lived in the mountains of Montana I never observed anything like this. But on flat land (or flat ocean surface), I don't see how the relatively stable atmosphere behind a storm front or around an isolated storm cell (especially a big one like in your pictures) would be an environment that would interfere with outflow. We see it all the time down here on the Texas coastal plains.

But my question was why you leaped to the conclusion that you saw a meteor impact perfectly centered on a collapsing storm center when you were aware of outflow boundaries? I don't mean to be a prick, but what were you thinking?

In response to 5010: It doesn't matter what angle, there is always a track. And the chances that any meteor would impact at a right angle to all possible tangents to the surface of the earth are infinitesimal small. Even if it were the case, then the track as it punched through the storm center would be quite evident.

So the pictures are indeed, quite beautiful and amazing. However, while the pictures are rare, the event depicted isn't.

At least until I am presented with some evidence to the contrary.