New Species Developing?

[jcgadfly]

Last Updated: Wednesday, 9 June, 2004, 12:34 GMT 13:34 UK

Scientists see new species born

By Dr David Whitehouse
BBC News Online science editor



Fruit flies are usually studied in the lab
Scientists at the University of Arizona may have witnessed the birth of a new species for the first time.
Biologists Laura Reed and Prof Therese Markow made the discovery by observing breeding patterns of fruit flies that live on rotting cacti in deserts.

The work could help scientists identify the genetic changes that lead one species to evolve into two species.

The research is published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

One becomes two

Whether the two closely related fruit fly populations the scientists studied - Drosophila mojavensis and Drosophila arizonae - represent one species or two is still debated by biologists.

Link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3790531.stm

I'll leve this open to debate.

[miguetoo]

makes you wonder if humans can evolve and make a new species.. super intelligent humans or super human powers..

[dannyp]

this would probably mean a lot in cases with anti evolutionists.

[Pooeypants]

Originally posted by dannyp, this would probably mean a lot in cases with anti evolutionists.

We've shown many examples of speciation before, this one is no different. Creationists will just do what they've always done, play dumb or ignorant.

[Compugasm]

I intend to breed a new species that is a kitten with feathers. I'm not sure how I will do this yet. Maybe I will use some kind of genetic machine or ask Jesus. I'll call it a Kitty-Cock. It's sure to be a family favorite. Basically, it combines the warm and lovable qualities of a cat, with the feathers of a peacock. It might have a beak, maybe not. But, it will be able to lay eggs. They will not fly because that would be ridiculous.

[Pooeypants]

Originally posted by Compugasm, I intend to breed a new species that is a kitten with feathers. I'm not sure how I will do this yet. Maybe I will use some kind of genetic machine or ask Jesus. I'll call it a Kitty-Cock. It's sure to be a family favorite. Basically, it combines the warm and lovable qualities of a cat, with the feathers of a peacock. It might have a beak, maybe not. But, it will be able to lay eggs. They will not fly because that would be ridiculous.

You can't breed it but you could attempt genetic engineering.

[dannyp]

Originally posted by Pooeypants, We've shown many examples of speciation before, this one is no different. Creationists will just do what they've always done, play dumb or ignorant.

really? i didn't know that.

every time i got in a discussion with a creationist their main fued was within the macroevolution. they were, though, accepting of microevolution. the difference is they've proved microevolution, but not a species jump. but thats just from my understanding.

[Pooeypants]

Originally posted by dannyp,+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (dannyp,)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-Pooeypants, We've shown many examples of speciation before, this one is no different. Creationists will just do what they've always done, play dumb or ignorant.

really? i didn't know that.

every time i got in a discussion with a creationist their main fued was within the macroevolution. they were, though, accepting of microevolution. the difference is they've proved microevolution, but not a species jump. but thats just from my understanding.[/b][/quote]
I cite sources to articles where speciation has been observed, most creationists just say it's a load of wishie washie and say it's not really evolution. There's no pleasing some people.

[LogicaLunatic]

Comp....

:):)

This leads me to a new thread :)

[dannyp]

Originally posted by Pooeypants, I cite sources to articles where speciation has been observed.

where?

[Sonart]

every time i got in a discussion with a creationist their main fued was within the macroevolution. they were, though, accepting of microevolution. the difference is they've proved microevolution, but not a species jump. but thats just from my understanding.

Another little fib I always hear is in discussions of the fossil record and how there are no transitional forms. The fact is there are transitional forms galore and new ones being found every day.

As for examples of observed speciation, try here.