Research: Red Meat Linked to Cancer

[StrongHeartsWin]

And the data keeps coming.

This article in the April 8 edition of Science Daily tells of the research conducted by the University of Leeds, where 35,000 were part of the study, that showed higher rates of breast cancer for women who consumed at least one portion of red meat per day. Result, those women compared to those who didn`t eat red meat were 56 percent more likely to get breast cancer. Those who ate even more than one portion were 64% more likely to get breast cancer.

This study was carried out over seven years and conducted by the university`s Centre for Epidemiology and Biostatistics and was published in the British Journal of Cancer.

What I find most interesting about it is the high rate of cancer even with a very modest amount of meat consumption. Thoughts?

[5010]

Another study links protein diet and cancer.

It's a preliminary study and needs follow-up, but it seems to suggest a low protein diet can protect against some cancers. A high protein diet can increase risk of developing cancer.

However, other studies indicate that soy protein might have a protective effect on hormone-related cancers. It does on mice, at least.

I'm glad I gave up meat.

[tman_ndsu08]

Quote by: StrongHeartsWin What I find most interesting about it is the high rate of cancer even with a very modest amount of meat consumption. Thoughts?

Does this mean we should ban red meat or perhaps we should develop a cure for cancer?

[grandpa]

I think meat from certain sources can certainly be bad for people, but I'm quite certain not every meat eater is at serious risk of cancer.

Grandpa h.

[brien]

What I find most interesting about it is the high rate of cancer even with a very modest amount of meat consumption. Thoughts?

As long as the data is genuine, and the conclusions based upon it are valid, it is very good information to publish. However, it is the choice of the citizens to use it as they wish.

[5010]

Quote by: tman_ndsu08 Does this mean we should ban red meat or perhaps we should develop a cure for cancer?

What it really means is if someone is eating a burger and complaining about second hand smoke (which studies indicate is less risky on cancer), we should tell them to shut up and go eat a chicken!

But seriously, the presence of risk should not automatically require a ban. If we did that, then we would all end up legally confined to plastic bubbles. Allow people the choice to minimise risk. Give the information and businesses will provide choices. The info on the dangers of red meat simply makes more business include safer selections on the menu for customers who are concerned about it. The bonus for me is there is a chance for more vegetarian selections. The info on the dangers of 2nd hand smoke makes more business include separate ventilated areas for customers concerned about that.

And yes, keep developing cures, but at a reasonable cost to society because we can never cure ourselves of being mortal.

[DEEJ85]

Maybe its the fact that meat eaters do not eat enough vegetables.

maybe the reason the low levels of meat consumptions seem to not be affecting the cancer rate is because the consumption of meat itself isn't the problem.

maybe the people who are eating either higher or lower contributions of red meat, both are not receiving enough vegetables in their diets.

If its lack of vegetables that are the problem, then if I don't eat enough vegetables that I need, then whether or not I eat higher or lesser contributions of meat wouldn't be as much an issue as you think it is.

Also most of the meat that we eat in society is full of fat and grease. Yes I agree that eating burgers from Macdonald's isn't that healthy.

When I buy say, ground beef, I have the option to either buy the normal stuff (which has all the regular fat in it) Or I can buy lean ground beef which has substantially less fat and much healthier.

[Duke1985]

I got a pack of smokes and a stake, bring it on baby.
If we start banning everything that can give you cancer, what will we do about the sun? Motor oil caused cancer in some rats in California, at least thats what the bottle says, get rid of that. Point, a lot would have to go to ban anything that poses the a cancer risk.

DEEJAY might be on to something with the vegetables in us carnivorous types diets, a lack of vitamins or something, I don't know I'm not a scientist.

[Kamehameha34]

I'm sure the risk of disease from eating E. Coli infested spinach is greater than the risk from eating thoroughly cooked steak.

[tman_ndsu08]

Quote by: 5010 And yes, keep developing cures, but at a reasonable cost to society because we can never cure ourselves of being mortal.

Our own immune system that comes built in with our bodies is already capable of destroying cancer.


If it just knew that cancer cells were bad and should be destroyed, it would never afflict anyone.

[StrongHeartsWin]

Quote by: Kamehameha34 I'm sure the risk of disease from eating E. Coli infested spinach is greater than the risk from eating thoroughly cooked steak.

Then post the data to support your claim.

[shawmutt]

I like a little cancer in my food.

[Slevin57]

I think it's fairly safe to say that everything to a degree causes cancer.

or as ALL of these studies say, MAY cause cancer.

Me walking down the road, MAY cause cancer.

[StrongHeartsWin]

More data from a different study at Harvard Medical School published in the Archives of Internal Medicine:

"We found that higher red meat intake may be a risk factor for hormone receptor-positive breast cancer among premenopausal women," said lead author Eunyoung Cho, an assistant professor of medicine at Harvard Medical School.

In this study more than 90,000 women took part in it over a period of 12 years. And again, a modest consumption of red meat (just 1.5 serving per day) showed a marked difference in contracting cancer.

Despite these doubts, Calle agreed that there is an association between red meat and other cancers, such a colorectal cancer. So, she concurs with the American Cancer Society's dietary recommendations to shun red meat.

[StrongHeartsWin]

Quote by: Slevin57 I think it's fairly safe to say that everything to a degree causes cancer.

Not fair at all to say. Post some data that shows such a statement is accurate.

or as ALL of these studies say, MAY cause cancer.

That is right, and as more and more data keeps piling up, the evidence is becoming overwhelming -- just as the evidence for man causing global warming is becoming overwhelming, but we will always have those who doubt the data and try to dismiss it.

Me walking down the road, MAY cause cancer.

Data please. But you and I both know you won`t offer any. Your sarcasm is merely an obfuscating screen.

[Kamehameha34]

Quote by: StrongHeartsWin Then post the data to support your claim.

Don't take my statement generally. People who eat spinach exclusively infected with E Coli will get the disease more frequently.

What's my point?

Eating anything unhealthy is bad. The fact that unhealthy meat exists hardly makes vegetarianism any more of a logical choice.

[StrongHeartsWin]

Quote by: Kamehameha34 Don't take my statement generally. People who eat spinach exclusively infected with E Coli will get the disease more frequently. What's my point? Eating anything unhealthy is bad. The fact that unhealthy meat exists hardly makes vegetarianism any more of a logical choice.

Perhaps you may want to start a thread about E Coli. Look at the thread title and OP of this one. I look forward to your thread on that. When you do make it, be sure to show us some data stating more people catch E Coli from spinach than they do from meat.

[Kamehameha34]

Quote by: StrongHeartsWin Perhaps you may want to start a thread about E Coli. Look at the thread title and OP of this one. I look forward to your thread on that. When you do make it, be sure to show us some data stating more people catch E Coli from spinach than they do from meat.

You're missing the point.

The point is that you're comparing improperly cooked meat to vegetables- with the inferred desire to push your agenda.

[StrongHeartsWin]

Quote by: Kamehameha34 You're missing the point. The point is that you're comparing improperly cooked meat to vegetables...

No, you are missing the point, or trying to insert one where there is none. What makes you think that properly cooking red meat diminishes the possibility of contracting cancer from it? You think all the meat eaten by those persons in those studies was improperly cooked? What do you base that assumption on?

[Athena]

Quote by: StrongHeartsWin More data from a different study at Harvard Medical School published in the Archives of Internal Medicine: "We found that higher red meat intake may be a risk factor for hormone receptor-positive breast cancer among premenopausal women," said lead author Eunyoung Cho, an assistant professor of medicine at Harvard Medical School. In this study more than 90,000 women took part in it over a period of 12 years. And again, a modest consumption of red meat (just 1.5 serving per day) showed a marked difference in contracting cancer. Despite these doubts, Calle agreed that there is an association between red meat and other cancers, such a colorectal cancer. So, she concurs with the American Cancer Society's dietary recommendations to shun red meat.

Hum, are the cows injected with hormones, or eating a substance that could promote cancer? It is just hard for me to believe red meat in itself is the cause. I want to see a study that includes consideration of what goes into the animal.

I believe more fat in general increases the risk of cancer, and this would not be caused by eating red meat alone, but a high fat diet and lack of exercise. I bet most of us are not getting enough water and exercise for optium health, and many could be lacking in adequate sleep and relaxation.

Also we probably lack adequate fiber and good stuff that comes from fruits and vegetables. Here again is a potential regional problem. Much of our food is grown on almost sterile soil, that is chemically treated with fertilizers. So even if we are eating the right foods, we may not be getting the nutrition we need.

Are we sure the test subjects, didn't shave their arm pits and use anti prespirant? This, plus extra fat, could increase risk. The cancer causing substance could come from something besides the meat, but more fat would increase the risk.