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| Sedimentary Rock Posts: 17 | Unlimited Free Energy - Now FREE ENERGY OR OVER-UNITY POWER UNLIMITED FREE HORSEPOWER OR KILOWATTS On the Internet you will find large numbers of credible sites with information on "free energy" or "over-unity" devices for power generation or transportation. "Free energy" or "over unity" is not something for nothing and it does not violate the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics. For there is no such thing as a "closed system" when you accept the reality of quantum physics, the ether, mind matter interface and similar ideas. I cannot give you a link, but one of these guys calculated that every liter of space - empty or otherwise contains the energy potential of (I think) 8000 liters of gasoline. I have seen photos of free energy machines running and under the right lighting was captured a "vortex" of some kind of “substance” feeding right into the machine. There is unlimited energy everywhere, we just have to have the circuitry or hardware to capture and harness it. First we have to open our mind to the possibility of unlimited energy. A child cannot tie his shoes if he thinks it is impossible. Google for over-unity, free energy, zero-point energy, etheric energy. Or Google for names of the many inventors and theorists of this field. List of inventors is linked below. Physics took a wrong turn after Faraday and Maxwell. The famous “Michelson Morley” experiment was in error and decisively lead physics astray. Faraday and Maxwell are the basis and inspiration for many OU devices and theories today. See Dr. Bruce DePalma, Joseph Newman (has a great video on his site), Tom Bearden, among others. If you google for Faraday (or) Maxwell and over-unity you will get a lot of interesting hits. Tesla debated Einstein on the existence of the ether. It is a known fact that Einstein personally doubted the validity of his theories as an older man, but by then the myth was solidified. "It is not what we don't know which blocks us, rather it is what we think we know - which is in error". I have cut my file on this subject to just give a few specific inventors or companies. Here are only a few: THERE ARE LOTS MORE - FREE FOR THE GOOGLING BlackLight Power Incorporated This is a serious corporation – very sophisticated technology – free textbook – Grand Unified Theory of Quantum Mechanics (or something like that) - their stock price jumped 1800 % at the IPO. Lot’s of Ph.D’s on staff. Their process makes free energy via hydrogen via water and also creates entirely new materials which have valuable industrial uses. I read on the net that they were granted patents but later the patents were pulled. Free Text book The Grand Unified Theory of Classical Quantum Mechanics There are also lots of other water into hydrogen technologies out there besides Blacklight. Google Yul Brown, Carl Cella, Archie Blue. SWISS M-L CONVERTER OR TESTATIKA (THESTATICA or THESTA – DISTATIKA) MACHINE THIS DEVICE WORKS!! 3KW – 20 KW MODELS – LINDEN SWITZERLAND. The 3kw (that’s 30 - 100 watt light bulbs) unit is infinitely efficient. No power needed to run once started by hand! The 20kw models need a small amount of power to keep them going, but efficiency is probably over 1-2000%. This is the methernitha religious community. You can go there physically (not just on the internet)and they will let you examine the machines they have. They will not sell you one or fully disclose the technology they are using. Why not? “The world isn’t ready for this” is the explanation. Lot’s more info with many photos on these machines on other internet sites. Google testatika/thestatica/methernitha, AND YOU WILL GET BETTER LINKS WITH LOTS OF PHOTOS http://www.greaterthings.com/News/Fr...ica/index.html Paul Baumann: Testatika generator (Methernitha) LOTS OF PICTURES OF MACHINES HERE Google for lots more sites KOHEI MINATO LINKS –330% Eff. Or more!! Motors These motors are capable of free energy power production in larger sizes. Minato has a contract to supply several thousand 40,000 small motors to fast food stores in Japan as cooling fan motors in reefers and freezers. They will not be free energy. They will just save the customer a ton of money on their electric bill. Scaling this motor up to say 25 HP or 100 HP (or any size you wanted) and then having it drive an appropriately sized electric generator would give you a self sustaining /closed circuit free energy generator/power plant for your home. Kohei is starting off this way, in part, to stay “under the radar” and of course, because he sold a nice profitable contract so why not. Travel Japan and Save on Hotels and Airfares Kohei Minato and the Japan Magnetic Fan Company - Health Supreme Kohei Minato: Magnet Motor Kohei Minato: Magnet Motor Google Kohei Minato for lots more sites The Energy Machine of Joseph Newman has a great video which shows his working machines and struggles to get it patented. Joe may be a little nuts and he did run off with a couple of teenage girls. A lot of other guys would too, if they could. Serpo.org - The Zeta Reticuli Exchange Program “fasten your seatbelt” This one may be partial disinformation, but it is one hell of a story. The longest spaceflight ever made by humans. Contains info on remarkable alien free energy power source in possession of US govt. today. The MINUTEMAN MISSILE FREE ENERGY MISTAKE On board the Minuteman ICBM of the 60’s, 70’s there was circuitry that engineers later noticed put out more electricity than went into the circuit. Some contractor had mistakenly built a solid state FE device. The error was hushed up and maybe even corrected, but word got out. Google [minuteman “free energy”] and you will get lots of hits on this story. The accounts seem to vary whether the over-unity output was by accident or not. If PhD “rocket scientists” can accidentally create a FE device, then this is strong evidence that what some people claim really is true: You can put a bunch of monkeys in a room with unlimited paper and ink and eventually they will create the Encyclopedia Britannica. Ba-da-boom! Seriously, these technologies are real and they are being suppressed by the oil industry, the US Patent office and various others. All they need to break free and into your hands is enough of a sufficient constituency of pissed off Americans who demand it. If all the enviros would get off their wind energy (bird killer, easy to break crap) and solar (expensive, low power, a joke!) dead ends and get onto something with unlimited horsepower, then we could break free of our current technological traps. A lot of interesting stuff is happening in Russia and the former "eastern bloc", India, Japan. Dwight Callaway Boise |
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| God is good Location: Down by the river, stealing your water Posts: 1,518 | The idea sounds very interesting, particularly if we apply some of the concepts of quantum physics in order to arrive at what is often thought of as impossible. However, I still find this concept of overunity hard to believe. More investigation is in order, perhaps. All in all, though, although these efforts may not yield bona fide unlimited energy, we can at least increase our overall efficiency in energy production by incorporating some of these concepts in order to approximate that rather infinite goal as best as we can with our finite resources. Last edited by Epistemologist; Feb 2, 2007 at 08:48 pm. Reason: Changed "discussions" to "efforts" |
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| Sedimentary Rock Posts: 17 | To "Epistomologist" and all other readers: Any new idea takes some time for us to get our mind "wrapped around it". We all know this. I have been interested in this subject since the early 80's and had a lot of friends who introduced me to it. I used to pay a lot of money to buy files on various technologies from a guy calling himself Rex Research in Berkeley. He is now retired. Today, with the Internet, you can access even more information for free! Yes, there are frauds in this field. A lot of venture capital types are trolling these technologies. And some crooks are trying to catch the gullible. The first one of these companies or inventors to really make it will make general electric, general dynamics, general motors, IBM, Microsoft, etc. COMBINED look like small potatoes in the profits department. The best guys that I know of to help you get an attitude adjustment on the theoretical physics are Joe Newman ( who has a new theory of the nature of electricity), Tom Bearden, who is an expert on the weaponization of the Tesla technologies by the former Soviet Union and who has a critique of today's conventional physicists which is devastating. And then Dr. Randall Mills who founded Blacklight Power and has a free textbook online - which I have not read. If you are really interested in science and truth, look into this stuff. It is where the future of technology lies. Dwight Callaway |
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| Moderator/nobody Posts: 1,566 | Tom Bearden makes many claims, but no one can duplicate his MEG device. I find it very suspect, but it helps sell Tom's books. Now, Dr. Randall Mills who founded Blacklight Power does have an interesting technology. (With the physics to make at least his presentation plausible) Rather than releasing a slew of Zero Point, and alternative energy links. Why not pick the one you find most interesting and expand on it. I assume you visit ZPEnergy and Kellynet, both oftimes do have interesting links. I don't think I'd be so bold as to claim these unproven links and devices as TRUTH though. BlackLights fusion may be, but that remains to be seen. Live Long and Prosper (Genetics and Capitalism) |
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| redneck scum Location: Cut n Shoot, Texas Posts: 830 | Veddddy interesting.[/wolfgang] I don't know if this is related, but I seem to remember one of Johnny Carson's guests was a man who had a little machine that supposedly produced more work for a given energy input than normal, and that he 'discovered' by thinking outside the box. Apparently this came natural to him, as he had never been introduced to the "box", having never studied physics formally. I've never seen him since, and don't remember his name, as I was more preoccupied with rock and weed at the time. I just thought that if there were really anything to it (despite having been reviewed by an engineer at MIT or something) that it would have caught on........or been stifled by those heavily invested in "fossil" fuels. . "If the personal freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution inhibit the government's ability to govern the people, we should look to limit those guarantees." Pres. Bill Clinton, April 12, 1993 |
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| BANNED Location: New York Posts: 4,217 | I got into it with someone over the possibility of a simple electromagnetic generator that, using the right combination and quality of wiring and magnets, could power itself and still have power to spare. The math all works out, based on real materials, but I'm still told it's impossible. |
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| Sedimentary Rock Posts: 17 | Dilligras --The guy that you saw on Johnny Carson was probably Joe Newman The Energy Machine of Joseph Newman has a long free video which has the whole history of the guy and his machines, including Carson clips. I misspoke on Newman. He has a new theory of not just electricity but also of matter. RCNE - The technology that will bust the conventional paradigm of physics is in this field. Over-unity or free energy. I did not say all sites or inventors are valuable or true. In fact, I said some of the promoters out there are fakes. But some of these technologies worked and some still work. Look at the testatica machine of Linden Switzerland. Read Tom Bearden's critique of Physicists and I don't have a link. I probably still have it saved to my hard drive somewhere. I agree that Bearden's stuff can get pretty weird when he starts talking about weaponization. But who knows maybe he is right and I just can't grock it. The future of technology that will transform the world is not in wind, solar cells, hydrogen (from natural gas) or ethanol from Corn. All of these are losers whose only function is to make those who can't think or analyze feel better, and keep them complacent while big oil continues to suppress the really dangerous competition that will -- put them out of business. Free Energy means Freedom. No fuel costs, no taxes on fuel, no rationing, far less economic restraints on power usage and travel. Dwight Callaway |
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| Principled Observer Location: Toledo, Ohio Posts: 13,873 | Quote:
I didn't do the math, it just makes sense with magnet technology. Petition of Redress of Grievances: http://www.givemeliberty.org/default.htm Canadian Lawsuit Against Their National Banks: http://www.freewebs.com/classaction/ Osborn F. Enready | |
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| God is good Location: Down by the river, stealing your water Posts: 1,518 | I must say that I'm not entirely qualified to speak on this, since I'm still learning thermodynamics now. But still, we ought to generate more confidence in the conclusions of these people before we accept, because as you said, there are frauds in this field. The concept of overunity sounds prima facie incredible, but perhaps upon more careful analysis and a bit more evidence, it will become gradually more credible, particularly if some optimal application is made. |
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News | Steorn I know a few people who are paying close attention to this, some applied to be undergo the beta testing, but didn't make the jury. Live Long and Prosper (Genetics and Capitalism) | |
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| BANNED Location: New York Posts: 4,217 | @rcne Thank God someone was actually trying this out. I'd hate to think little old me was the only one with a good idea. I especially like the Our Technology section, and item #2... Quote:
We are entering a time when our materials are high quality and our knowledge at the right level to create something like Steorn has created. | |
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| redneck scum Location: Cut n Shoot, Texas Posts: 830 | Quote:
"If the personal freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution inhibit the government's ability to govern the people, we should look to limit those guarantees." Pres. Bill Clinton, April 12, 1993 | |
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![]() Homo sapiens Posts: 2,050 | Good luck with all of your right math and right combinations of magnets and wiring. Now that you have all of that worked out, you need to find a mechanical engineer (convince him that the math, magnets and wiring all work out) to help with the design, build a working prototype, and submit it to the US Patent Office. After it has actually worked for 6 months and produced more energy than it consumes, then you might actually be granted a patent. By the way, perpetual motion devices are the only sort for which you actually need to submit a working prototype. The US Patent Office has learned quite well. They actually know what the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics is and the meaning of entropy. By the way, in your calculations, did you allow for such things as inertia, friction, and resistance? I bet you did. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion;... --From Article 11 of the Treaty of Tripoli passed unanimously by the Senate 1797 |
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![]() Homo sapiens Posts: 2,050 | You actually did what? Quote:
I'm sure that if your scheme were in the least possible that you could get up the money, at least on a small scale - say a working prototype that could operate for 6 months. Do you know what entropy is? Are you claiming that the 2nd LoT is incorrect? (Yes you are.) As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion;... --From Article 11 of the Treaty of Tripoli passed unanimously by the Senate 1797 | |
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| redneck scum Location: Cut n Shoot, Texas Posts: 830 | Quote:
Have you even LOOKED at Joe Newman's Unified Mechanical Field Theory? You speak of the Patent Office as though you work there........your name wouldn't happen to be Donovan Duggan, would it? I only ask, because that is the name of the ignorant and arrogant prick who conspired with others in our bureaucratic vipers nest to deny Newman a patent after declaring his energy machine a perpetual motion machine without even a thorough reading of his documentation and theory behind it. The Japanese proved his theory (see my last post) by performing an experiment outlined in his book, and proving without a doubt its accuracy, just as Einstein's theory was proved by Arthur Eddington and colleagues during the Ecliptic Expedition of 1919. His machine violates NO laws of physics, as he explains on his website in great detail, for any with the honesty to bother reviewing it before ridiculing the life's work of a pioneer. And if the story of his battles with the Patent Office and a (paid off?) biased Federal judge doesn't raise your hackles, then I see little reason to give anything you might say on the topic in the future any consideration whatsoever. Just remember, the "scientists" ridiculed Einstein's E=mc2 for years, until 1919. Quote:
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![]() Homo sapiens Posts: 2,050 | But that isn't the problem. I'm just saying that you need to offer some empirical evidence. Construct the prototype and let's see. It isn't that I am without knowledge. I have actually studied the physics involved. My judgements aren't without knowledge. I doubt that your machines are possible. Show me that I am wrong. That's how science works. Web links don't do it. Build the machine. "Oh! It's much too expensive," isn't an excuse. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion;... --From Article 11 of the Treaty of Tripoli passed unanimously by the Senate 1797 |
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| redneck scum Location: Cut n Shoot, Texas Posts: 830 | Quote:
And where are the prototypes with which you proved your position on ANY scientific issues here? Don't piss on my leg and tell me its raining, pardner. But, hey.......Joe's number is on his site......why don't you see if he will show you one? Quote:
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| redneck scum Location: Cut n Shoot, Texas Posts: 830 | My main complaint about Mr. Newman is that he seems to like to see his name repeated in full in every damned sentence......reminds me of Rush Limbaugh, tooting his own horn every five friggin' minutes. "If the personal freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution inhibit the government's ability to govern the people, we should look to limit those guarantees." Pres. Bill Clinton, April 12, 1993 |
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