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[Zeebadee]

Quote by: dilligras Tell it to Mr. Sabori.

Yeah, sure, Mr. Sabori has no reason to continue the charade, does he??

"Jimmy Sabori, 59, and his brother Jake, 56, heard about Papp about seven years ago, when Jimmy was building wind-power turbines.

The Saboris sent half a million dollars to UPC, they say, for what they thought would be franchises to use Papp's engine to generate electricity.

When no engine materialized --- it was stuck in the Tulsa lab waiting for the tests that never came --- they sued UPC to get their money back. But in July 1988, the judge instead ordered them to work with Papp to bring his engine to market. Jake hauled the engine back to Florida, rebuilt it with Papp and watched it run. Then the Saboris went hunting for more investors, preferably people who would plunk down a few hundred thousand. "
Joseph Papp: Noble Gas Engine (US Patent 4,428,193, etc)

You gonna send him some money and invest???

[dilligras]

Quote by: Zeebadee Yeah, sure, Mr. Sabori has no reason to continue the charade, does he?? You gonna send him some money and invest???

From my online research of the matter, the preponderance of evidence, including expert witnesses, show that Papp's engine worked.... the only question is how did he prepare the inert gasses before injecting them? Work is currently underway to find the answer by several groups besides Mr. Sabori's, who some say is not really doing much with the idea besides getting people to invest.... which is the same charge that was levelled at Papp, Newman, and a half dozen others working in the alternative energy field.

As for myself, see posts # 89 & 90 to see where my extra time and money will be going for some time, such as they are.

If I had the funds and inclination to invest in Papp's fuel/engine discovery, I would probably contact Ken Rauen or Heinz Klostermann, of Clean Energy, Inc.

Actually, Ken is himself the inventor of an engine design that can convert the ambient heat of the environment into work, without any waste heat.



As you were, naysayers.

[Thanatos]

Quote by: dilligras From my online research of the matter, the preponderance of evidence, including expert witnesses, show that Papp's engine worked.... the only question is how did he prepare the inert gasses before injecting them? Work is currently underway to find the answer by several groups besides Mr. Sabori's, who some say is not really doing much with the idea besides getting people to invest.... which is the same charge that was levelled at Papp, Newman, and a half dozen others working in the alternative energy field. As for myself, see posts # 89 & 90 to see where my extra time and money will be going for some time, such as they are. If I had the funds and inclination to invest in Papp's fuel/engine discovery, I would probably contact Ken Rauen or Heinz Klostermann, of Clean Energy, Inc. Actually, Ken is himself the inventor of an engine design that can convert the ambient heat of the environment into work, without any waste heat. As you were, naysayers.

Wait...the majority of the atoms in that fluid chamber in the Rauen engine have to oscillate randomly in the same direction at the same time for it to exert force. The motor would have to be absolutely frictionless and engineered down to the nanometer to ever budge. Unfortunately even if it has frictionless mechanical parts, due to air resistance and the recompression of the fluid its not going to be perfect.

Explain to me how that flywheel is supposed to fix the fact that you're sending a fluid through compression cycles. I'm looking at the pictures and reading the descriptions, and its not computing into any magical anti-compression-cycle force. If I was going to build a fake free energy machine it would look something like that; the flywheel could store quite a lot of energy and so it would appear to work for a short demonstration.

[Zeebadee]

Quote by: dilligras From my online research of the matter, the preponderance of evidence, including expert witnesses, show that Papp's engine worked.... the only question is how did he prepare the inert gasses before injecting them? Work is currently underway to find the answer by several groups besides Mr. Sabori's, who some say is not really doing much with the idea besides getting people to invest.... which is the same charge that was levelled at Papp, Newman, and a half dozen others working in the alternative energy field.

Yeah, yeah, millions of dollars invested, decades of time spent by the best scientific minds of our time trying to duplicate the work of an immigrant Hungarian paranoid "inventor", all without success. The ONLY people that say Papp's engine worked seem to be those with a vested interest in cashing in on such an engine.

Quote by: dilligras Actually, Ken is himself the inventor of an engine design that can convert the ambient heat of the environment into work,

Actually "inventor of an engine design" is totally misleading. Has he invented such an engine or hasn't he? Where is it? Let's see it run. Did Da Vinci "invent" the Mona Lisa, or did he merely paint what he saw in his mind?

This is, IMHO, a problem with American patents. No one has to actually invent anything to cash in on technology advances, they only have to predict that someone else will. Ken "invents" a design, when someone else actually goes to the trouble of building such an engine, Ken is there with his hand out to collect.

Quote by: dilligras As you were, naysayers.

Past time to drop this, it only makes you appear to be an insufferable prick. If that's your intent, you've succeeded.