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dilligras · Jan 18, 2007, 08:57 am

Don't bother me right now......that damned parrot ran off with me eye patch again.....

Suburbanite · Jan 23, 2007, 07:43 pm

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As a child's IQ rises, his taste for meat in adulthood declines, a new study suggests.

British researchers have found that children's IQ predicts their likelihood of becoming vegetarians as young adults -- lowering their risk for cardiovascular disease in the process. The finding could explain the link between smarts and better health, the investigators say.

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Which IQ test? There are several, each equally invalid. Also, correlation does not mean cause.

SpideySpirit · Jan 24, 2007, 04:21 am

The other issue that is being addressed by the study is that an optimally healthy body necessarily implies that our brain will also function optimally. When you see high profile leaders who themselves are not exemplary in their health you have to wonder about what that says about those they are leading...

I'm not sure which IQ test, it isn't mentioned in the report, I would say that what ever test was used it was uniformly applied to all the children under-taking the test.

**Chris** · Jan 24, 2007, 09:31 am

there is a correlation that is concrete though (will find some evidence) but I heard that less than 8% of MENSA members say they believe in a god.

Compugasm · Jan 24, 2007, 12:21 pm

Oh great, a moderator just opened the door to religious dietary arguments.

pikatore · Jan 25, 2007, 04:50 am

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there is a correlation that is concrete though (will find some evidence) but I heard that less than 8% of MENSA members say they believe in a god.

I'm not to suprised. they are so smart, they aren't capable of comitting to some fantasy that boosts thier confidence.

dilligras · Jan 25, 2007, 10:11 am

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Don't bother me right now......that damned parrot ran off with me eye patch again.....

Damned bird thinks it's a codpiece......

SpideySpirit · Jan 25, 2007, 01:09 pm

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there is a correlation that is concrete though (will find some evidence) but I heard that less than 8% of MENSA members say they believe in a god.

I'm certainly not religious, more spiritual. A God......hmmm. I'm a little uncomfortable with the connotations that accompany the use of the word God. If God means anything it would be a feeling of connectedness with the universe & especially ALL life, if there is a God the place she would be most evident is at the heart of all living things.... But we aren't going there, right??:eek:

kubedawg · Jan 26, 2007, 02:07 am

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When you see high profile leaders who themselves are not exemplary in their health you have to wonder about what that says about those they are leading....

So you're saying that our leaders health will cause me to be less of a person if their health is not exemplery? I choose my own life, not the leaders above me. The leaders of this country who's health is inadequate doesn't hinder my ability to be happy and succeed in life. In fact, I'd bet if we had a vegetarian president, I'd still not be affected.

loser · Feb 13, 2007, 09:44 am

Measuring intelligence involves both quality and quantity. IQ has everything to do with the first and nothing to do with the last.

A person can have a high IQ and be devoid of knowledge. Conversely, a person can have a wealth of knowledge and have an IQ that's bumping along the bottom.

IOW, IQ measures reasoning ability (thinking, deducing, applying logic) and NOT acquired knowledge.

What I have found is that as IQ increases, so does anti-social behavior. A large percentage of geniuses exhibit criminal tendencies. Therefore, one would expect to see many of these elite involved in raking and tillage. It's only obvious that they would eat what they have sown.

Question: Wasn't Jeffrey Dahmer a genius?

P.S. You have to eat meat. How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?

StrongHeartsWin · Feb 14, 2007, 02:48 am

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You have to eat meat. How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?

lol.

I guess that depends on if you aspire to be more than just another brick in the wall.

Well?

dilligras · Feb 14, 2007, 03:48 am

Better a brick in the Great Wall, than three bricks short of a load, n'est pas?

Carry on

sevendogs · Feb 14, 2007, 04:26 am

I would question material and methods of those researchers first. Why did they study it at all? Perhaps they were motivated by animal rightist ideology.

StrongHeartsWin · Feb 14, 2007, 05:25 am

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Better a brick in the Great Wall, than three bricks short of a load, n'est pas?

lol. Yeah, but the jesting is in reference to having to eat your meat to get your pudding -- and hence giving up unique differences to fit in.

StrongHeartsWin · Feb 14, 2007, 05:27 am

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I would question material and methods of those researchers first. Why did they study it at all? Perhaps they were motivated by animal rightist ideology.

Perhaps, perhaps not. Simple intellectual curiosity may often lead one to study things.

Osborn F Enready · Feb 14, 2007, 01:25 pm

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Perhaps, perhaps not. Simple intellectual curiosity may often lead one to study things.

That is their right. What is not their right is forcing others to do their bidding at the point of a gun, as your group pushes for in law.

StrongHeartsWin · Feb 15, 2007, 04:15 am

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What is not their right is forcing others to do their bidding at the point of a gun, as your group pushes for in law.

LMFAO! Ok, OFE, I will bite. What example specifically are you referring to that shows ARists forcing others at the point of a gun to do something for them? You mean like threatening former Senator Bob Dole to help get the Animal Welfare Act passed?

ARist: Bob, if you don`t go to the Hill for us and endorse legislation to protect animals, we are going to kill your wife.

Bob: Ok, ok, ok. I will go to the Senate and introduce animal legislation for you. After all, you have a gun to my head forcing me to do it.

Is that it, OFE? Do you have some scenario like that up your sleeve ready to spring on us? Please bring it forth. Oh, so funny, I have to quote it in part again...

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...forcing others to do their bidding at the point of a gun...

sevendogs · Feb 15, 2007, 07:02 am

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Perhaps, perhaps not. Simple intellectual curiosity may often lead one to study things.

If material and methods were faulty, the conclusions are not valuable; they are just political propaganda. This is so typical of AR. They mislead people, pushing on emotions and avoid serious discussion. This is how they execise censorship in their forums, but they enter other forums, in which they are tolerated. This is what you do, Sir.

belverron · Feb 15, 2007, 03:50 pm

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The researchers found that 4.5 percent of participants were vegetarians. Of these, 2.5 percent were vegan, and 33.6 percent said they were vegetarian but also ate fish or chicken.

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There was no difference in IQ score between strict vegetarians and those who said they were vegetarian but who said they ate fish or chicken, the researchers add.

The article is poor proof. It doesn't mention the actual correlation, and it isn't even counting true vegetarians.

Osborn F Enready · Feb 15, 2007, 05:13 pm

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What example specifically are you referring to that shows ARists forcing others at the point of a gun to do something for them?

Using law, and the guns of enforcement to remove choice from American consumers on irrational logic, a warped view of nature, and denial of the FACT that people can and will choose to eat meat.

You are nothing but a group of political activists using the law as a weapon, as opposed to a tool of equality and individual empowerment.

Jan 18, 2007, 08:57 am	#41 (permalink) (top)
dilligras redneck scum Location: Cut n Shoot, Texas Posts: 835	Don't bother me right now......that damned parrot ran off with me eye patch again..... Why do I not trust the left? Could it be that familiarity has reared the distasteful expectation sired by past offense? Only The Shadow knows...

Jan 24, 2007, 04:21 am	#43 (permalink) (top)
SpideySpirit Raw Vegan! Me + Kong Location: Singapore Posts: 31	The other issue that is being addressed by the study is that an optimally healthy body necessarily implies that our brain will also function optimally. When you see high profile leaders who themselves are not exemplary in their health you have to wonder about what that says about those they are leading... I'm not sure which IQ test, it isn't mentioned in the report, I would say that what ever test was used it was uniformly applied to all the children under-taking the test. GORILLA - Height: 5'10 - 178cm Weight: 470lbs 213kg Body fat: 6% Best Bench: 1235lbs 560kg Diet: plants-100%, meat-0% - RAW VEGAN

Jan 24, 2007, 09:31 am	#44 (permalink) (top)
Chris Gamma-ray burst Location: Nashville Posts: 6,355	there is a correlation that is concrete though (will find some evidence) but I heard that less than 8% of MENSA members say they believe in a god. I'm voting against the theocratic psychopaths Shared

Jan 24, 2007, 12:21 pm	#45 (permalink) (top)
Compugasm Son of X51 Location: San Diego Posts: 3,780	Oh great, a moderator just opened the door to religious dietary arguments. Death to Videodrome! Long live The New flesh!

Feb 13, 2007, 09:44 am	#50 (permalink) (top)
loser Logic User Location: Ether Posts: 623	Measuring intelligence involves both quality and quantity. IQ has everything to do with the first and nothing to do with the last. A person can have a high IQ and be devoid of knowledge. Conversely, a person can have a wealth of knowledge and have an IQ that's bumping along the bottom. IOW, IQ measures reasoning ability (thinking, deducing, applying logic) and NOT acquired knowledge. What I have found is that as IQ increases, so does anti-social behavior. A large percentage of geniuses exhibit criminal tendencies. Therefore, one would expect to see many of these elite involved in raking and tillage. It's only obvious that they would eat what they have sown. Question: Wasn't Jeffrey Dahmer a genius? P.S. You have to eat meat. How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat? My faith is stirred but never shaken. I'm the proof that evolution works... You're the proof that it doesn't. Political Correctness only teaches people to be deceivers.

Feb 14, 2007, 03:48 am	#52 (permalink) (top)
dilligras redneck scum Location: Cut n Shoot, Texas Posts: 835	Better a brick in the Great Wall, than three bricks short of a load, n'est pas? Carry on Why do I not trust the left? Could it be that familiarity has reared the distasteful expectation sired by past offense? Only The Shadow knows...

Feb 14, 2007, 04:26 am	#53 (permalink) (top)
sevendogs Igneous Magma Location: Virgnia, USA Posts: 425	I would question material and methods of those researchers first. Why did they study it at all? Perhaps they were motivated by animal rightist ideology.