Nike+ IPod = Surveillance

[grandpa]

Wired News: Nike+ IPod = Surveillance

A report from four University of Washington researchers to be released Thursday reveals that security flaws in the new RFID-powered device from Nike and Apple make it easy for tech-savvy stalkers, thieves and corporations to track your movements. With just a few hundred dollars and a little know-how, someone could even plot your running routes on a Google map without your knowledge.

It seems this could belong in BOTH this forum and in Society & Rights.

Anyway, this article highlights some strange issues, including whether or not people really need electronic devices in their shoes.

Grandpa h.

[Milton Bradley]

I saw this story run on Cnn, and all that I could think of was "what possible use could somebady have for something like this?".


These f***ers are just trying any angle to justify tracking people. Any excuse will do.

[Chris]

Pardon, but who are "these f**ckers"? Nike? Apple? the big brother? USGOV? the masons? the UN? The NWO?

[Milton Bradley]

Quote by: Chris Pardon, but who are "these f**ckers"? Nike? Apple? the big brother? USGOV? the masons? the UN? The NWO?

Everybody who cooperates with the agenda.


It behoovs one to pay attention to these sorts of things. ( By "these sorts of thhings", I mean exactly who is cooperating. )

[kubedawg]

Say no to RFID even if it means riding a bicycle to work instead of having a drivers license.

[Milton Bradley]

Quote by: kubedawg Say no to RFID even if it means riding a bicycle to work instead of having a drivers license.

A bold statement. I gather you live fairly close to your job, but, what if that changes?


Pretty tough to go to job interviews by bicycle.


Also, how do you get groceries home?

[kubedawg]

If many people choose not to go with RFID chips in drivers licenses, don't you think they'd consider removing em? Think about it, not just about the individual rights, but on a larger, business-type scale, because that's how our government works. If most people choose not to go with RFID, that will cause car sales to lower, it will decrease productivity in most industries, and be generally bad for the economy. Therefore, the government will be forced to cease making these RFID chips and hopefully listen to what people have to say about this stupid technology.

[Milton Bradley]

Quote by: kubedawg If many people choose not to go with RFID chips in drivers licenses, don't you think they'd consider removing em? Think about it, not just about the individual rights, but on a larger, business-type scale, because that's how our government works. If most people choose not to go with RFID, that will cause car sales to lower, it will decrease productivity in most industries, and be generally bad for the economy. Therefore, the government will be forced to cease making these RFID chips and hopefully listen to what people have to say about this stupid technology.

Good thinking, and you're speaking to the choir by the way.


But do you really see people boycotting on a lage scale.


I know I will remove mine the old fashoined way, I'll cut it out of there. But what about everybody else?

[kubedawg]

that's not a bad idea at all! but what if you get pulled over and they have an rfid scanner and they make it manditory to have the drivers license with the rfid in it?

[Milton Bradley]

Quote by: kubedawg that's not a bad idea at all! but what if you get pulled over and they have an rfid scanner and they make it manditory to have the drivers license with the rfid in it?

I'm not going to try and predict that nightmare scenario.


Suffice to say, it won't be pretty.

[Nathan Struth]

dude...I think they're just trying to make it easier to catch and identify criminals. I don't think it's some US scheme to track people and monitor them. What loser would spend his entire life doing that? Come on. And so what! Who cares if they plot where you run? Does it really matter? What are they going to do shoot lasers from satellites? Lasers that don't exist on satellites? You guys are paranoid. Especially you milton.

[grandpa]

Quote by: Nathan Struth I think they're just trying to make it easier to catch and identify criminals.

In the case of government, we're talking about criminals to begin with--greater criminals catching and identifying lesser ones. You're also ignoring the fact that the government has an interest in identifying its dissenters.

That aside, technology and ID cards are what makes ID theft so possible to begin with.

Grandpa h.

[Chris]

Quote by: Milton Bradley Everybody who cooperates with the agenda. It behoovs one to pay attention to these sorts of things. ( By "these sorts of thhings", I mean exactly who is cooperating. )

OK can I have the non-cryptic answer now?

[Milton Bradley]

Quote by: Chris OK can I have the non-cryptic answer now?

I wasn't being cryptic, I mean that as literally as it can possibly be taken.


Everybody who cooperates.


You have to draw your "line in the sand" in a defendable position. If you have retreated beyond the area where your voice matters, you will have no bargaining chips to bring to the negotiations.


That is why I say the time to revolt is near. ( well, it's past actually )


The fact is, most people are either too soft, have too much to lose, or are too ignorant to realize that "We the People" should be shooting treasonous traitors, and seditious scoundrels already. ( Sorry if my use of the word "too" is completly incorrect. )

[Nathan Struth]

So you'd rather not have ID milton? I could impersonate anyone is that correct? The point is that these Nike shoes aren't some global plot, they're just a simple invention.

[Milton Bradley]

Quote by: Nathan Struth So you'd rather not have ID milton?

No, no satellite tracking for me thanks. I'm a big boy, and my own boss thank you very much.

Quote by: Nathan Struth I could impersonate anyone is that correct?

I'm not worried about that aspect as much as the potential for constant surveillance by Big Brother.


Perhaps people with more to lose would have more issues along those lines, but I don't really exist in the "electronic identity" world where anything of mine could be stolen.

Quote by: Nathan Struth The point is that these Nike shoes aren't some global plot, they're just a simple invention.

Sure they are, but just watch how they end up being implemented. First it'll probably be the Post Office, all in the name of "tracking those packages". Then some other company will decide they like the technology, and then it's everywhere. ( Think video surveillance, and how that technology proliferated throughout an entire industry, or two, or three. )


No, I'm scred wheen people with a track record like those in Washington have this type of technology at their disposal.


I say revolt before the nano-revolution, or it''s curtains for free people everywhere.

[Compugasm]

Quote by: Nathan Struth What loser would spend his entire life doing that? Come on. And so what! Who cares if they plot where you run? Does it really matter?

Hell yeah it does. All that walking your doing is wearing the rubber off your shoes, and polluting the environment. You must pay a walking tax.