Petition to create a Global Weather Control System

[jamesbdunn]

Global weather can be controlled, not just endured. What components of weather would you personally like to have controlled?

If you think controlling the weather is a good idea, you can sign your name to a petition with the link found below.


Building a Global Weather Control System -

Petition to be sent to
Governor Howard Dean
Chairman of the Democratic National Committee

www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/774125411


Please review and select your approval of the petition found at the link above. You can do so Anonymously if you choose.

The petition outlines one method of controlling global weather. The intent is to get the public informed as to the reasonable implementation of a Global Weather Control System using already established technologies. The cost of the system is estimated to be a fraction of the amount of money lost each year due to damages from severe weather.

The proposed system could control Global Warming, significantly reduce the intensity of hurricanes, promote rainfall where needed, limit the intensity of monsoons, limit the hot and cold temperature extremes, ...

Additionally, the system would foster a number of new job and economic opportunities for people all around the World, even in rural communities.

After reviewing and signing this petition, if you agree, please forward this email to everyone you believe would be interested in controlling global weather.

James Dunn
Electrical Engineer
james.dunn@excite.com

[Jack]

Whenever I hear "control the weather" I think "unintended consequences".
What mechanisms are you proposing for weather control?

[jamesbdunn]

Quote by: Isherwood Whenever I hear "control the weather" I think "unintended consequences". What mechanisms are you proposing for weather control?

Ross Hoffman has been doing research related to the control of weather. I would assume that live data would feedback to a supercomputer to discover unknown interrelationships and to provide an automated mechanism to avoid undesireable consequences. Life of all species must become part of the total equation, so researchers worldwide will become an integral part of the total system; such is my vision.

http://www.niac.usra.edu/files/libra...715Hoffman.pdf

http://www.nsf.gov/nsb/committees/hu.../3/hoffman.pdf

NASA Institute for Advanced Concepts -- Selected Study

[Osborn F Enready]

The U.S. has admitted to using weather control in Vietnam.
Former Naval Weapons Lab Physicist and Weather Modification Expert Reveals That Government knows All About How to Control Hurricanes


They have been controlling the weather.
HARNESSING WEATHER


They now have a "powder" that turns fresh water into gel, but dissolves in salt water, which could theoretically kill a hurricane in its tracks.

I want to know what the powder is, what are its effects in the ocean, the wildlife, the HUMAN life? They don't talk about this yet.

I think half the problems we have now are DUE to government and corporate manipulation of weather, nature and hiding science that is detrimental to their dollars.

[PatrickHenry]

Controlling weather isn't for humanity. It's too juvenile for such responsibility and will inevitably use it for evil.

[Kuroko]

Reason stands it already is in use.

Afraid of an iceage which was due a thousand years or so? start warming the globe up..

If there is room for a conspiracy theory then the theory already has merit...

If there is doubt in a statement then there cannot be absolute truth in either intention or in faith.. The truth isn't meant to be trusted, don't get me wrong, but it is true that every lie contains atleast %30 truth.. the good ones have almost one hundred percent..

[Milton Bradley]

Quote by: PatrickHenry Controlling weather isn't for humanity. It's too juvenile for such responsibility and will inevitably use it for evil.

Not to mention, who among us understands the system enough to be allowed to run it?

[Technosoul]

Controlling the weather is old hat stuff...

Rain dancing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[kubedawg]

I know it might be strange for me to say this, but I don't think any of those selections bothered me a bit. Yes, weather does have an affect on our lives, but don't you think it'd be best to not meddle with mother nature and let it do it's thing? The things we need to do are worry about how we can survive when these things happen. Adapt to the environment, not have the environment adapt to us. That'd just be stupid.

[jamesbdunn]

Any technological advancement needs to have at some point a real-life tool to verify correctness. But I whole-heartedly agree that we are far from being an enlightened species, and that significant effort should be taken to operate the Weather Control System ethically. Not just ethically for a local community, but ethically considering all of the Earth, all persons, all species, and all time. We presently do not have any real tools for evaluating such broad considerations; but such tools can be developed.

[KSoDBartman]

Yeah, right. I'll believe it when I see it. The amount of energy involved in global climate patterns, and even in local weather systems, is so phenomenally large that trying to change it would be like trying to knock a freight train off the tracks with a wiffle bat.

[Osborn F Enready]

KSoD Bartman said: The amount of energy involved in global climate patterns, and even in local weather systems, is so phenomenally large that trying to change it would be like trying to knock a freight train off the tracks with a wiffle bat.

Really?!?

Well, a little research on the topic will show you they have been doing it for years. So much for opinion?

[jamesbdunn]

Quote by: Osborn F Enready I want to know what the powder is, what are its effects in the ocean, the wildlife, the HUMAN life? They don't talk about this yet. I think half the problems we have now are DUE to government and corporate manipulation of weather, nature and hiding science that is detrimental to their dollars.

A Weather Control System (WCS) that is an everyday part of public life would have researchers worldwide talking with each other and proposing slight changes in weather patterns to save a particular species of life, producing more crops, allowing for more tourist trade, limiting destructive weather extremes, promoting destructive weather extremes in some localized area to promote the natural ecology needing those extremes, ...

A WCS would be monitored globally with instrumentation packages positioned every few miles all around the world. This information would feed back to supercomputers to analyze the natural weather patterns, determine the effects of small induced changes on overall global weather, and forecast changes globally for future intended weather conditions.

Imagine a completely predictable global weather calendar, and all of a sudden there is an anomally. Hundreds of researchers would immediately mobilize to determine what had either not been anticipated, or to find the human factors that had influenced local weather.

Any chemical means that would be used to control local weather phenomena would immediately be detected by a WCS that is publicly sanctioned and influenced.

[jamesbdunn]

Quote by: KSoDBartman Yeah, right. I'll believe it when I see it. The amount of energy involved in global climate patterns, and even in local weather systems, is so phenomenally large that trying to change it would be like trying to knock a freight train off the tracks with a wiffle bat.

One mirror of the proposed system provides any portion of either shielding from the Earth 1 Gigawatt of power or increasing the thermal energy delivered to the Earth by 1 Gigawatt of power, or any fraction in between. Many thousands of these mirrors are proposed.

The intensity of power produced by one mirror is too intense to be allowed to simply illuminate at a 1:1 ratio. Such an intensity would be like going from Alaska to the Equator, it just wouldn't be beneficial. The energy from one mirror would have to be distributed over 10 square miles to prevent burning the local environment. When reflecting the energy away from the Earth, a significant cooling takes place locally, similar to cloud cover.

The proposed WCS is more than possible, it is practical.

[jamesbdunn]

Quote by: kubedawg I know it might be strange for me to say this, but I don't think any of those selections bothered me a bit. Yes, weather does have an affect on our lives, but don't you think it'd be best to not meddle with mother nature and let it do it's thing? The things we need to do are worry about how we can survive when these things happen. Adapt to the environment, not have the environment adapt to us. That'd just be stupid.

We are the keepers of all life on Earth. Presently, many species of wildlife are becoming extinct because of Global Warming. Which seems to be from the increased methane produced by cattle, industrial chemical emissions, and probably even from human methane emissions.

By controlling the weather, we may make it possible for humans to better care for the other species that live with us, that can not adapt themselves. Humans will likely be the last species that can live in the Earth because we are the most adaptable. But do you want to live in such a sterile environment?

[jamesbdunn]

Quote by: Technosoul Controlling the weather is old hat stuff...

A practical method of controlling the weather is not old hat. The cost to implement must be relatively low. Chemicals can not be used because they usually impact the environment negatively. No present weather control allows for the ongoing control over global warming. A farming community in Saudi Arabia can not afford to influence the weather by any means, so a system must allow for control of the weather on a continuing basis, not just locally, but globally.

[Osborn F Enready]

The study of the possible impacts far outweigh any organized expermientation, and should be done first.

They have been experimenting with weather for quite some time, and we see very little of what the results of this experimentation has been.

I think transparency would be "necessity" before this could even be hypothesized legally.

[kubedawg]

Quote by: jamesbdunn We are the keepers of all life on Earth. Presently, many species of wildlife are becoming extinct because of Global Warming. Which seems to be from the increased methane produced by cattle, industrial chemical emissions, and probably even from human methane emissions. By controlling the weather, we may make it possible for humans to better care for the other species that live with us, that can not adapt themselves. Humans will likely be the last species that can live in the Earth because we are the most adaptable. But do you want to live in such a sterile environment?

Ok, but what if we are able to control the weather globally, and end up screwing our planet up even further? I've got an idea, stop using oil, and start using better products for energy so that we can let the world heal itself.

There are so many species in this world, it's unbelievable. Do we want to keep certain types of species alive instead of letting them kill themselves off and become extinct? Good question. How would saving a species of animal benefit a human or the earth? I really don't see any benefits. I believe in survival of the fittest, and if a certain species cannot adapt, bye bye species. But, what if we are already screwing it up? I have a feeling we are. So, basically, instead of going further into the direction of trying to control things, thinking we know all the answers, why not figure out what's best for our environment, what's worst, implement the good things and remove the bad things? Not change the weather.

[jamesbdunn]

Quote by: kubedawg Ok, but what if we are able to control the weather globally, and end up screwing our planet up even further? I've got an idea, stop using oil, and start using better products for energy so that we can let the world heal itself.

In the past 150 years humans are responsible for eradicating almost 50% of the know species of the world. Bacteria, insects, mamals, reptiles, birds, amphibians, are all lumped together. A wasp that only existed in a wetland area in Florida was eradicated because they wanted to build an apartment complex. How is that survival of the fit? I know you meant on a broader basis, but we kill off species flippantly.

Oil companies will end up being like the tabacco industry. Until sufficient pressure falls upon them, they won't seek alternative industries to invest their capital. Oil companies are NOT people running a business; the business has a life of its' own and runs the people. We need a broader mindset, each and all of us, to make better decisions globally.

Such is my desire to require Ethical Reasoning to be taught annually at all levels of education, globally. Ethical Reasoning is a system of mathematical and logical tools for predicting reasonable outcomes from proposed actions. Ethical Reasoning rarely uses the words right or wrong. People must be given the tools to think globally, most people can't see past their next pay check and certainly are unprepared to think globally.

Tree farms have produced more lumber than natural groves of trees could ever provide. Yet in just a few short generations of tree growth, the tree farms are failing. They are finding the lack of diversity makes the trees susceptable to insects and disease.

Basically, the WCS initiative allows a small percentage of educated individuals (hundreds of thousands) to attempt to do what is best for the Earth, despite the general populations' continued environmentally destructive tendencies. If you can't convince the majority to stop polluting and being destructive to the environment, what other choices are there?

[kubedawg]

Quote by: jamesbdunn In the past 150 years humans are responsible for eradicating almost 50% of the know species of the world. Bacteria, insects, mamals, reptiles, birds, amphibians, are all lumped together. A wasp that only existed in a wetland area in Florida was eradicated because they wanted to build an apartment complex. How is that survival of the fit? I know you meant on a broader basis, but we kill off species flippantly. Oil companies will end up being like the tabacco industry. Until sufficient pressure falls upon them, they won't seek alternative industries to invest their capital. Oil companies are NOT people running a business; the business has a life of its' own and runs the people. We need a broader mindset, each and all of us, to make better decisions globally. Such is my desire to require Ethical Reasoning to be taught annually at all levels of education, globally. Ethical Reasoning is a system of mathematical and logical tools for predicting reasonable outcomes from proposed actions. Ethical Reasoning rarely uses the words right or wrong. People must be given the tools to think globally, most people can't see past their next pay check and certainly are unprepared to think globally. Tree farms have produced more lumber than natural groves of trees could ever provide. Yet in just a few short generations of tree growth, the tree farms are failing. They are finding the lack of diversity makes the trees susceptable to insects and disease. Basically, the WCS initiative allows a small percentage of educated individuals (hundreds of thousands) to attempt to do what is best for the Earth, despite the general populations' continued environmentally destructive tendencies. If you can't convince the majority to stop polluting and being destructive to the environment, what other choices are there?

Here is a preview of the show Penn & Teller: Bullshit - Endangered Species
Penn & Teller: Bullshit! on Showtime

If I had the whole vid, I would have provided it. I've seen it, and it explains that the amount of species we've actually killed off are in the teens, not 50%. These guys have done their homework on this subject, so I suggest you watch it, because it's very informative.

I agree that tree farms are failing, however, we don't need tree farms. Trees wil reproduce themselves, faster than we can plant new ones. There is no tree extinction going on, in fact, it's the totally opposite. Facts?
Penn and Teller: Bullshit! Environmental Hysteria - Google Video
I suggest watching the whole video, but if you wanna hear about the trees, it's about 17 minutes into the video.

I say, lets continue trying to find better energy sources such as ethonal or using hydrogen or electric based systems to our vehicles to start, and we'll lose our dependancy on oil, and it'd be better for the environment. We don't need a handful of people telling us what's best. We have enough people in the government right now telling us what we can and can't do.