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Eclipse · Nov 19, 2006, 04:57 pm

Here is a neat little article. Although, I can easily see the moral issues growing against this like the mold growing as hastily as it does on old bread, I thought it might be interesting enough to bring up.

FOXNews.com - Blood Swapping Reanimates Dead Dogs - Health News | Current Health News | Medical News

Eclipse · Nov 19, 2006, 05:23 pm

I would say be skeptical of what you read...but I don't know much on the particular study either.

Kuroko · Nov 20, 2006, 11:05 am

I posted a video about this, these experiments first started in 1932 and were being done by russian research facilities along with help from outside universities.

Believe me, what you think you know about science pales in comparison to the truth of just how curious governments and researchers are in relation to time.

What I'm trying to say is, if they were doing that back then, imagine what they are doing now, let me find that video.

Zhavric · Nov 20, 2006, 11:55 am

Think of your brain as a collection of billions of intricate "open/closed" switches. That's really all the electircal/chemical pathways between neurons are. These relays release chemicals in series which forms thoughts.

When a person dies, all of these switches turn to "open". The human brain requires a tremendous amount of oxygen to function properly.

It is, however, possible to survive in a cold enviroment. Basically, everything in the body just "stops". The switches just get stuck where they are or function only slightly. This is why people who fall through icy lakes can survive being frozen for short spells and survive without brain damage.

The trick is making sure the person doesn't freaze. When the water in the body's cell freazes, it expands and will (usually) burst the cell, killing it.

As for the ethical consequences? As much as I like animals, if the research is worthwhile then no cost in animal life is too high. There's not a parent alive who wouldn't wipe out an entire breed of dog if it meant saving their child.

Kuroko · Nov 20, 2006, 12:23 pm

Go ahead and watch this.

If your quessy I would recomend against watching it, however the educational value outweighs the moral/imoral implications.

Eclipse · Nov 20, 2006, 07:01 pm

Well, that was an interesting video. It's hard to believe something like that was done.

Here is a link in Wikipedia. Fact or Fiction? I'll let you all decide...
Experiments in the Revival of Organisms - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This is about that exact movie.

Nathan Struth · Nov 24, 2006, 11:16 pm

THat's amazing. It's interesting that we did this 60 years ago and now we're sounding like "wow". And who gets their news from fox?

Nov 19, 2006, 04:57 pm	#1 (permalink) (top)
Eclipse Igneous Magma Posts: 248	Back From The Dead Here is a neat little article. Although, I can easily see the moral issues growing against this like the mold growing as hastily as it does on old bread, I thought it might be interesting enough to bring up. FOXNews.com - Blood Swapping Reanimates Dead Dogs - Health News \| Current Health News \| Medical News

Nov 20, 2006, 11:05 am	#3 (permalink) (top)
Kuroko Igneous Magma Posts: 305	I posted a video about this, these experiments first started in 1932 and were being done by russian research facilities along with help from outside universities. Believe me, what you think you know about science pales in comparison to the truth of just how curious governments and researchers are in relation to time. What I'm trying to say is, if they were doing that back then, imagine what they are doing now, let me find that video. Deist: 38% Scientist: 29% Debator: 15% Mathematician: 19%

Nov 20, 2006, 11:55 am	#4 (permalink) (top)
Zhavric Made of pure win. Posts: 3,704	Think of your brain as a collection of billions of intricate "open/closed" switches. That's really all the electircal/chemical pathways between neurons are. These relays release chemicals in series which forms thoughts. When a person dies, all of these switches turn to "open". The human brain requires a tremendous amount of oxygen to function properly. It is, however, possible to survive in a cold enviroment. Basically, everything in the body just "stops". The switches just get stuck where they are or function only slightly. This is why people who fall through icy lakes can survive being frozen for short spells and survive without brain damage. The trick is making sure the person doesn't freaze. When the water in the body's cell freazes, it expands and will (usually) burst the cell, killing it. As for the ethical consequences? As much as I like animals, if the research is worthwhile then no cost in animal life is too high. There's not a parent alive who wouldn't wipe out an entire breed of dog if it meant saving their child. Theists: supplying volconvo with lose since 2004.

Nov 20, 2006, 12:23 pm	#5 (permalink) (top)
Kuroko Igneous Magma Posts: 305	Go ahead and watch this. If your quessy I would recomend against watching it, however the educational value outweighs the moral/imoral implications. Deist: 38% Scientist: 29% Debator: 15% Mathematician: 19%

Nov 20, 2006, 07:01 pm	#6 (permalink) (top)
Eclipse Igneous Magma Posts: 248	Well, that was an interesting video. It's hard to believe something like that was done. Here is a link in Wikipedia. Fact or Fiction? I'll let you all decide... Experiments in the Revival of Organisms - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia This is about that exact movie. Last edited by Eclipse; Nov 20, 2006 at 07:24 pm.

Nov 19, 2006, 05:23 pm	#2 (permalink) (top)
Eclipse Igneous Magma Posts: 248	I would say be skeptical of what you read...but I don't know much on the particular study either.

Nov 24, 2006, 11:16 pm	#7 (permalink) (top)
Nathan Struth don't care Location: NY Posts: 267	THat's amazing. It's interesting that we did this 60 years ago and now we're sounding like "wow". And who gets their news from fox? I'm just a fool caught in the rat race of life (Nathan Struth) please help me solve world hunger, It's hard to do it alone.