Theory of why there was not evolution.

[Charlatan]

This thread is based on all my ideas as to why there never was an evolution of species outside of god's guiding hand.

Mating. no single celled organism would have a chance mutation that led them to mate. Bearing that in mind, there must have been a more advanced lifeform to mate. With the way mating goes, there would have to be the evolution before the mating, and we know that cannot happen with something that lives for only a few seconds.

Ozone. the ozone layer comes after trees and water come into being. Without ozone there can be no trees or life, as all life needs oxygen to survive and that means that there was simply too much helium and nitrogen to let something live.

I will leave it there for now. Remember, if even one of what i say is right there was no evolution outside of the guiding hands of a creator.

[xx_mortekai_xx]

there is already a thread about intelligent design, debated by someone MUCH more intelligence than what you have displayed in your posts (and someone I have infinitely more respect for). His conclusion was that "Intelligent design is a hopeless cause. I tried to defend it. I got ripped apart."

You dont stand a fucking chance.

[Charlatan]

Well, seeing as how you probably don't have anything better to do, try me on for size.

[SoylentGreen]

Mating. no single celled organism would have a chance mutation that led them to mate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asexual_reproduction

Asexual reproduction is the primary form of reproduction for single-celled organisms

[BlackSheep]

Mating. no single celled organism would have a chance mutation that led them to mate.

That is a very absolute statement so surely you have proof or at least strong evidence. Right?

Bearing that in mind, there must have been a more advanced lifeform to mate. With the way mating goes, there would have to be the evolution before the mating, and we know that cannot happen with something that lives for only a few seconds.

Why would there have to be evolution before the mating?
A few seconds?
Many single celled organisms can in theory live forever. I am not aware of any that live "only a few seconds". Single celled no sexual organisms also exchange genetic material with each other and unrelated organisms all the time. You really should try learning about something before forming an 'hypothesis'.

Ozone. the ozone layer comes after trees and water come into being. Without ozone there can be no trees or life, as all life needs oxygen to survive and that means that there was simply too much helium and nitrogen to let something live.

Again your ignorance is showing. Oxygen is a very corrosive substance that much life has adapted to, but it is very harmful. There is anaerobic life that even today exists only where free oxygen is not. It is very likely that when photosynthesis arose and began producing free oxygen that it was the greatest mass extinction on earth. As far as water goes. Simply because free oxygen didn't exist does not mean that there was no water, there was. There is evidence of water all over the solar system. If there is no free oxygen, it must be bound in molecules with other atoms and the most common atom is hydrogen and so water was very common, unless you actually believe 'trees' actually created oxygen.

I will leave it there for now. Remember, if even one of what i say is right there was no evolution outside of the guiding hands of a creator.

I guess it is a good thing not a single thing you said is right then.

[Charlatan]

I guess it is a good thing not a single thing you said is right then.

And why is that? Wouldn't you like to live forever?

[BlackSheep]

And why is that? Wouldn't you like to live forever?

So the joking off the cuff comment is all you respond to?

I would love to live forever, which in my experience puts me in the minority, but that is not why I said what I said. There is a ton of evidence that supports evolution and a massive amount of science is based on that theory. If you were correct all of that would be swept away, but it would not substantiate anything to do with Christianity or souls or anything else.

Now I suggest you go back and respond to the meat of my arguments or more accurately my actual arguments and respond to them.

[Charlatan]

That is a very absolute statement so surely you have proof or at least strong evidence. Right?

Why would there have to be evolution before the mating?
A few seconds?
Many single celled organisms can in theory live forever. I am not aware of any that live "only a few seconds". Single celled no sexual organisms also exchange genetic material with each other and unrelated organisms all the time. You really should try learning about something before forming an 'hypothesis'.

Again your ignorance is showing. Oxygen is a very corrosive substance that much life has adapted to, but it is very harmful. There is anaerobic life that even today exists only where free oxygen is not. It is very likely that when photosynthesis arose and began producing free oxygen that it was the greatest mass extinction on earth. As far as water goes. Simply because free oxygen didn't exist does not mean that there was no water, there was. There is evidence of water all over the solar system. If there is no free oxygen, it must be bound in molecules with other atoms and the most common atom is hydrogen and so water was very common, unless you actually believe 'trees' actually created oxygen.

I guess it is a good thing not a single thing you said is right then.

Well, in my view something has to be conditioned to evolve - not through radnom mutations, but through guided mutations that come about through exposure to being on land or anything like that. But, this would be impossible as nothing mates without needing to or being conditioned to.

The way i see ozone is that it forms from something like trees, and without ozone there would be no trees. If we disagree here, well that is just too bad for me.

[iolo]

And why is that? Wouldn't you like to live forever?

Good God, no! Are you raving mad?

[Medensis]

Good God, no! Are you raving mad?

What's wrong with living forever?

[iolo]

What's wrong with living forever?

Age, illness, loss of memory etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.

[Medensis]

Memory? Perhaps your memory would be limited but if you lived forever, surely they'd make technological advancements in neural implants correlated with memory. Age? I highly doubt you'd age considering that you'd do it forever. I'm sure your body would maintain it's healthiest form. Illness? Just small obstacles. Even persistent illness would likely be cured in time with medical advancements.