I can't trust "fundies", can you?

[Questatement]

Absolutely! I feel exactly the same way about fundie atheists. They rant and rave about something they don't even believe in! They exude hatred and vitriol from every pore. They continually start new threads for their religion bashing, counting on peer support from other atheists to make themselves feel good. Sort of like a Mutual Admiration Society for atheists. They use personal insults and ridicule to drive out any rational debate, because, in the end, they know they have no more proof of their stance than the theists they rant and rave about.

What happened to the like button?

[Julie789]

I don't trust them because they act all friendly until they find out you're an atheist and then they treat you like you are some green rotten slime that oozed out from under a rock somewhere and if you have the misfortune of having a good friend that converts to fundyism, they will drop you like a hot potato and it can hurt.

[Zeebadee]

what, exactly, is a fundie atheist?

I think I described such pretty accurately. Perhaps a mirror would give you a better picture.

[truthreality]

Btw, am I getting the hang of your 'debate' style?

At least he has a debate style. You just give your opinion and try to substantiate it with logical fallacies while going on tangents and beating around the bush while trying to argue against obvious flaws in your book of mythology that scholars who study it for decades are unable to reconcile.

[xx_mortekai_xx]

I think I described such pretty accurately. Perhaps a mirror would give you a better picture.

So it has nothing to do with belief, and everything to do with how YOU perceive the person.

Thanks for letting me know that, once again, your opinion is meaningless.

[Zeebadee]

So it has nothing to do with belief, and everything to do with how YOU perceive the person.

Of course it's how I perceive the likes of you, didn't you read the OP??

"Does anyone else feel this way about christian fundamentalists or fundies from other religions?"

Thanks for letting me know that, once again, your opinion is meaningless.

And thank you for yours!

[xx_mortekai_xx]

Of course it's how I perceive the likes of you, didn't you read the OP??

"Does anyone else feel this way about christian fundamentalists or fundies from other religions?"




And thank you for yours!

except atheism isnt a religion. its a single position on a single point. The fact that you dont know that doesnt suprise me. And one cannot be fundamentalist about something that isnt a system of belief.

So your opinion of so-called "fundie atheists" is LITERALLY meaningless.

I DO, however, like that you label me as a fundie atheist, since I have never even claimed no god exists, and actually hold a god as a possibility. Its not a high possibility in the least, but it is POSSIBLE. (however, no one has been able to actually produce objective evidence to support the idea, which is why I disbelieve it).

[finder]

They did to a lot of other people. Of course, your interpretation is the only possible logical one; it would be wrong to blame Christianity as a whole when your personal beliefs are claimed to be different.

Misinterpretations by people with dubious intentions do not make for what any certain texts promotes. The author's intent dictates what is being promoted. It would be wrong to blame Christianity as a whole for something Christianity doesn't promote. Atheists are not authorities of Christianity no matter how much they imagine they are.

I suppose. After accepting some very silly laws that prevent Israelites from eating cooked pork or that require the use of magical rituals to detect if your wife has been cheating, they became better people who would know to release their slaves.

Huh????

Oh, wait, except the Emancipation Procalamtion came from a dangerously pragmatic atheist who was involved in a massive and incredibly destructive war between the relatively secular and industrial North and the relatively pious South.

Not that this has anything to do to with the topic but Abraham Lincoln was no "dangerously pragmatic atheist." And the North was very involved in religion. Not that that alone gave Abraham his morals but well you can read for yourself...http://www.mrlincolnandfreedom.org/i...39&subjectID=3 http://www.mrlincolnandfreedom.org/p...jectID=3&ID=39 & the following...

And though Lincoln rejected the God's-on-our-side certainty of Northern abolitionist preachers, he eventually came to see the Civil War as divine retribution for the national sin of slavery. "Lincoln is clearly a believer in God and providence, yet it's a more mysterious God than his contemporaries worshiped," says Mark Noll, a history professor at the University of Notre Dame. http://www.usnews.com/news/history/a...us-uncertainty

You are equating the relative power level and degree of politeness of the UN with the Old Testament God.

The UN signs resolutions. God... well, going Biblical on someone is a phrase.

I presented observed fact which you couldn't refute.

Your beliefs. You are not plural and you do not speak for Christianity as a whole, or even a significant fraction.

Nice "dodge" I'm a Ford man myself.

In a room full of ten random Christians you could easily be the only one to interpret it your exact way. Even within whatever church you go to, I'm going to guess not everybody thinks the same thing.

That can be said of any group of people, your point? Nobody's trustworthy?

Whatever a believer believes, they do so with all their heart. There is often no room for doubt in their mind that this is the literal Biblical interpretation.

That what is? And if they are in error does that mean the bible promotes their erroneous assumption?

You're not for sale because it is *my* belief that slavery is wrong. Your market value is probably low anyway, unless you have blonde hair.

Well I should hope you don't change your mind in the near future I guess.

[Jettin]

true, but those actions are born from beliefs, correct?

i dont trust the belief. I dont endorse thought police, but I think the kind of thinking that drives fundamentalism in general should be diagnosable. Its harmful at best and dangerous if the situation is right.

Yes it is. Just because I believe in something however, doesn't mean I'll actually do it.

[Jettin]

I really don't trust how most of them act. Racism, sexism, hatred of gays, you name it. Bad beliefs cause bad actions.

Well I'm not going to deny that depriving people of their liberties is a good thing. But at the same time, we can't deny the fundies their rights either. They're allowed to believe in what they want and say what they want. It doesn't matter if you think it's bad or good, it's their right to think that. The only problem is their actions of course, which I don't like.

[xx_mortekai_xx]

Yes it is. Just because I believe in something however, doesn't mean I'll actually do it.

Not all schizophrenics kill people. Doesnt mean their views of reality cannot be dangerous to themselves and others.

[Cephus]

Well I'm not going to deny that depriving people of their liberties is a good thing. But at the same time, we can't deny the fundies their rights either. They're allowed to believe in what they want and say what they want. It doesn't matter if you think it's bad or good, it's their right to think that. The only problem is their actions of course, which I don't like.

Absolutely they have a right to believe whatever idiotic nonsense they want and I get to point out how stupid, irrational and completely unjustified, it is.

Nice how that works.