I can't trust "fundies", can you?

[Julie789]

Discussions about religion are a bit automatic, in my experience, whereas fundamentalism seems such obviously ignorant nonsense as to need no disproof or argument.

Right, kind of like how my x-best friend, now Christian fundamentalist, thinks computers are evil because she believes they will be used to "put the mark of the beast on everyone", but yet, owns and uses one.

[Peter]

Tell me if I'm wrong, but this discussion seems to be about religion and particularly Christianity, whereas I thought it was about trusting fundamentalists, people who believe that every word of the Bible, however contradictory those words may be, is literally true. Discussions about religion are a bit automatic, in my experience, whereas fundamentalism seems such obviously ignorant nonsense as to need no disproof or argument.

Agreed, we've wandered from the original OP.

The other day at the mall I met a woman I worked with for many years. She's a YEC and we'd have some lively discussions about religion etc. She has a rapier wit and was always ready with a funny comment but this time she was with her equally fundie husband. I chatted with him for 5 minutes while she stood in the background and would barely look at me. She didn't utter a word.

I asked another friend that knows her too about what was up. He said they have a biblical man/woman relationship so when he's around she's silent and submissive. Does anybody else find this to be unhealthy and just a little bit creepy?

These are the type of people I could never trust. How would you know when they might read something in the "good" book and decide to apply it to you? They don't think for themselves and that makes them dangerous IMO.

[Peter]

Right, kind of like how my x-best friend, now Christian fundamentalist, thinks computers are evil because she believes they will be used to "put the mark of the beast on everyone", but yet, owns and uses one.

Hypocrisy thy name is religion!

[finder]

Agreed, we've wandered from the original OP.

The other day at the mall I met a woman I worked with for many years. She's a YEC and we'd have some lively discussions about religion etc. She has a rapier wit and was always ready with a funny comment but this time she was with her equally fundie husband. I chatted with him for 5 minutes while she stood in the background and would barely look at me. She didn't utter a word.

I asked another friend that knows her too about what was up. He said they have a biblical man/woman relationship so when he's around she's silent and submissive. Does anybody else find this to be unhealthy and just a little bit creepy?

Believe it or not, I do. It certainly isn't the understanding of scripture I have. In fact I'd venture to say the actions of Christ as recorded by the Gospel authors as well as what other new testament authors had to say don't support it.

[Peter]

Believe it or not, I do.

I'm very glad to hear that Finder.

It certainly isn't the understanding of scripture I have. In fact I'd venture to say the actions of Christ as recorded by the Gospel authors as well as what other new testament authors had to say.

See, that's the problem. The bible is so open to interpretation it can be used to justify any god damn thing you can imagine. I much prefer people who think for themselves using the basic golden rule.

[finder]

I'm very glad to hear that Finder.



See, that's the problem. The bible is so open to interpretation it can be used to justify any god damn thing you can imagine. I much prefer people who think for themselves using the basic golden rule.

You obviously have a legitimate point but my concern is more geared toward the individuals themselves. It's hard for me to blame the words when it's people's agendas that subvert the words to support their agendas.

[xx_mortekai_xx]

You obviously have a legitimate point but my concern is more geared toward the individuals themselves. It's hard for me to blame the words when it's people's agendas that subvert the words to support their agendas.

Was slavery a subversion of Christian doctrine, or a proper application of biblical principles? How about witch burnings? Or killing homosexuals?

[Peter]

You obviously have a legitimate point but my concern is more geared toward the individuals themselves. It's hard for me to blame the words when it's people's agendas that subvert the words to support their agendas.

Couldn't the most intelligent being in the universe have written a book that was not interpretable? I believe any 6th grader today could improve on the bible.

Or is the bible exactly what the most intelligent being in the universe wants? I have to admit it does spice up the entertainment value for him when his own children can't agree on his instructions while he's away.

[finder]

Couldn't the most intelligent being in the universe have written a book that was not interpretable? I believe any 6th grader today could improve on the bible.

Or is the bible exactly what the most intelligent being in the universe wants? I have to admit it does spice up the entertainment value for him when his own children can't agree on his instructions while he's away.

I believe it is left open to interpretation so we have no excuse. It has a way of revealing our hearts desires.

[truthreality]

I believe it is left open to interpretation so we have no excuse. It has a way of revealing our hearts desires.

You mean your hearts desires. I have no desire to live in a "paradise" while other individuals suffer for eternity.

[Peter]

I believe it is left open to interpretation so we have no excuse. It has a way of revealing our hearts desires.

Yes, along the lines of 'give them all the rope they need and let's watch them hang themselves', very entertaining.

[finder]

Yes, along the lines of 'give them all the rope they need and let's watch them hang themselves', very entertaining.

I know you're having fun with this, but yes, so true. All the rope we need.