Or any other thread, for that matter.Quote by: xx_mortekai_xx
Or any other thread, for that matter.
There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.
Yeah, true.
I think your avatar kinda gives the right response to most of his posts.
In dealing with naturalistic phenomenons the video makes perfect sense. However it promotes closed mindedness when considering what doesn't come natural. Nothing new there. Where atheists close their minds seems to be with that which isn't logical, out of the norm. Exactly what God claims to be. The video is just another argument where one compares God with leprechauns and unicorns. Completely closed minded to the fact that people do not give sworn testimony to leprechauns and unicorns but do give it where God is concerned. That phenomenon in of itself is evidence. Sure it can be explained away with other possibilities and probabilities but unless you're there you do not know. But you still prefer other explanations because you are predisposed to, i.e. closed to the idea something can be going on that doesn't appear possible from an atheist's perspective.
"The trouble with people is not so much with their ignorance as it is with their knowing so many things that are not so." ~ William Alanson White
No. The video promotes critical-thinking. If someone came up to you and told you that horses hover an inch the ground when you're not looking you'd say "that's completely ridiculous and impossible, horses aren't fit to hover."(Hopefully) That's critical thinking. This video applies to that. As it does Palmistry, Astrology, Tarot Cards, Religion, Aliens, Big Foot, Clairvoyance, or any other extraordinary claim.
You're simply taking offense to rationality which is natural to anyone who supports and believes any of the above examples.
I guess you could say rather than an A-theist video it's an A-Bullshit video and god happens to fall under bullshit.
As the pattern gets more intricate and subtle, being swept along is no longer enough.
"I don't think they really walk like that on the moon, it just doesn't seem progressive."
Something you just demonstrated the opposite of. If millions said but they can, check it out, look for yourself, then I would look. Open to the (however slightly remote) possibility there could be something to it. That's critical thinking with an open mind, something your video didn't promote.
How presumptuous on several levels.You're simply taking offense to rationality which is natural to anyone who supports and believes any of the above examples.
Proof?I guess you could say rather than an A-theist video it's an A-Bullshit video and god happens to fall under bullshit.
"The trouble with people is not so much with their ignorance as it is with their knowing so many things that are not so." ~ William Alanson White
This is simple, Finder. Why do you have to complicate everything so much? If someone asked you to jump off a cliff with no worries because a magic carpet would arrive out of nowhere to catch you, would you do it?
I look at someone asking me to sacrifice my reasoning capabilities in order to believe in a God that's going to make sure I'm happy forever after I die, when the same God allowed children to die in agony of cancer, as an equally crazy request.
Why is reasoning such a terrible crime with your God, punishable by infinite torment?
When people allow themselves to hold two conflicting ideas as both true, such as thinking God is good even though he "allows" devastating evil to exist, it causes mind fuck, or a more intellectual term would be cognitive dissonance. This is a bad thing because it impedes mankind from discovering truth, which is what gives meaning to our lives (knowing truth).
This post is the height of irony when we consider the fact that many atheists have indeed examined theism; believed it, practiced it, encouraged others to embrace it, and yet theists on average don't accept their conclusion that theism in the form of Christianity, Islam or Judaism are all flawed belief systems and the gods they worship unbelievable. Why encourage a practice when you won't accept the conclusions reached by those methods?If millions said but they can, check it out, look for yourself, then I would look. Open to the (however slightly remote) possibility there could be something to it. That's critical thinking with an open mind...
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Because theists have their "Get Out Of Reasoning Free" card, they don't have to think whether their gods make sense or not, in fact, they are encouraged not to think about it because "questioning God" is a sin in and of itself.
Just close your eyes, shove your fingers in your ears and sing to yourself really loud. Apparently it all makes sense if you do.
There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.
No truer words.
LMAOF. Good one man. Fucking brilliant. This is the best post on this thread.
im sorry. Its very difficult for me to imply tone from text, so i end up taking everything seriously.
But, had that not been the position of people before, I probably wouldnt have taken it seriously. You validated poe's law
he takes offense because the premise of the video ends up leveling criticism at the concept that he has built his entire worldview around.
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