What are your opinions, my volconvo brethren?
Perhaps better said, is not having a religious belief the same as having a religious belief?
What are your opinions, my volconvo brethren?
Perhaps better said, is not having a religious belief the same as having a religious belief?
The tree of liberty is hungry. Let's feed it well in the next election.
I wouldn't call it a religion but it's defiantly a system of belief that is the antithesis of religion.Quote by: Apeman81
"The trouble with people is not so much with their ignorance as it is with their knowing so many things that are not so." ~ William Alanson White
In the same way that not voting, not watching the news, and not engaging in discourse about the role of government is a political stance, perhaps.
A man said to the universe:
"Sir, I exist!"
"However," replied the universe,
"The fact has not created in me
A sense of obligation."
-- Stephen Crane
In the same way that bald is a hair color, perhaps.
Religion is poison because it asks us to give up our most precious faculty, which is that of reason, and to believe things without evidence. It then asks us to respect this, which it calls faith. - Christopher Hitchens
Only for the annoying "fundamentalist" atheists like Richard Dawkins or Christopher Hitchens.
But since you are not atheist you would know this... ...how? On faith?
If the terrain and the map do not agree, follow the terrain.
When motherhood becomes the fruit of a deep yearning, not the result of ignorance or accident, its children will become a new race.
By their words.
"The trouble with people is not so much with their ignorance as it is with their knowing so many things that are not so." ~ William Alanson White
The notion that atheism is a religion is used by some extremist religious adherents as a rhetorical device. The implication is that atheists are not different from them in that they believe something and so do atheists. They equate beliefs and religion. That is nonsense. If their argument had any merit what would be entailed is that any belief in something whatsoever is a religion. A person believes in the power of music, would become someone who had music as a religion. Someone who was inspired by fine cooking would have cuisine as a religion.
When extremist theists assert that "atheism" is a religion they are guilty of the fallacy of equivocation, namely redefining the word "religion." As I say, the notion that so-called "atheism" is a religion is nonsense. As nonsensical as asserting that white is, in fact, black.
Doubt is not a pleasant condition, but certainty is absurd - Voltaire
What beliefs are engendered by not believing in gods? What positive beliefs are dogmatically mandated for all atheists that would qualify it as a belief system? Where can I read the canon of atheistic beliefs?
Are you among those who conflate passion and zeal with religious belief? Considering Dawkins has written as much about biology and evolution as he has atheism and Hitchens about literature and history are you going to claim that biology, literature and history are/were religions to them as well?
The Forum Rules
Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.
[John F. Kennedy]
The principal value of debate lies in the development of logical thought processes, and the ability to articulate your positions publicly.
[Senator Dick Clark of Iowa]
The presence of those seeking the truth is infinitely to be preferred to the presence of those who think they've found it.
[Terry Pratchett]
What?Since when have you given any credence to their words when they tell you their experience as Christians was the same as yours?
If the terrain and the map do not agree, follow the terrain.
When motherhood becomes the fruit of a deep yearning, not the result of ignorance or accident, its children will become a new race.
Now you're talking apples and oranges. Please explain. Are you saying they can read minds?What?But what they say isn't true unless they're telling someone their failed attempts at abiding with God are the same experiences as those who are successful?
"The trouble with people is not so much with their ignorance as it is with their knowing so many things that are not so." ~ William Alanson White
That some of us have moved on beyond religious belief in our quest for reality doesn't imply explicitly or implicitly that our experience was a failure. It was successful as long as it lasted. It's just that successfully convincing ourselves of the reality of the experience didn't last for us like it has for you and many others. Perhaps you'll never become dissatisfied with your beliefs, perhaps you will. Either way that's your experience, not ours.But what they say isn't true unless they're telling someone their failed attempts at abiding with God are the same experiences as those who are successful?
The Forum Rules
Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.
[John F. Kennedy]
The principal value of debate lies in the development of logical thought processes, and the ability to articulate your positions publicly.
[Senator Dick Clark of Iowa]
The presence of those seeking the truth is infinitely to be preferred to the presence of those who think they've found it.
[Terry Pratchett]
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