The Bible . . . And SCIENCE!

[Robert]

Why that particular god. Why not the muslim god? Why not the jewish god? Why not Zeus?

Why is it that god belief is based on location and time? That seems terribly arbitrary to me.

Do you base your god belief on the better science in the bible vs the quran?

Because the only way to the Father is through the son, and that is through the God of Israel....I do not deny other powers (gods) they are all aspects of the one God

[Robert]

I suggest that if these notions are your idea of "Science" then your definition of science includes science fiction and speculative fiction. There is nothing I'm aware of in the Bible that any researcher in a scientific field would reference to further any scientific endeavor. But, as you are well versed in the Bible perhaps you know of some scientific insights or discoveries mentioned in the Bible which scientists today rely upon as part of the scientific literature.

The root of the word 'science' is 'to know', ie to have 'knowledge'. Therefore, although it is not the modern interpretation, anyone with good 'knowledge' of something, could be said to have a branch of science

[Robert]

When you look at everything from an evolutionary standpoint, you see everything as a whole. All living things are related, and came from the same initial source. It's not until you start putting barricades in-between organisms do you start having problems, like the one I stated before. It's humans who separate out "kinds" and "species", not nature. In nature, there is no division; only variation.

I agree, apparently we have 60 % of our DNA the same as a banana. But this is in line with the Text, not against, it all comes from an initial primordial Singularity.

[Robert]

I don't want my children or grandchildren living in a world where people regularly blow each other up over imaginary gods.

They don't, there real....but they don't kill because of that, it is human nature

[Robert]

Well since you put me in parenthesis, I feel compeled to give you a reasonable answer from my perspective. I never blew anyone up, nor have I ever had any inclination to do so. Further more no one has tried to convince me that is what I must do to show my faith as superior to other faiths. Also, war crimes are mostly committed by secularist seeking monetary gain, power and position. Heck, even the war on terror is about control over land albeit it is under the guise of religion. From the stand point of Islam that is. Funny they don't demand land from any poor nations don't you think?

If God were imaginary you would have a point. Funny how atheist can't understand God as a source of knowledge just because they have no access. Anyway for one to think they know another's relationships better then they and who seems to think all of mans atrocities are a result of faith; to the extent one thinks the world will end despite facts contrary to that premise; is what sounds unreasonable. Not someone who believes in God.

I agree

[Robert]

The six days of creation which someone mentioned... here is a link to show six days is = to 15 billion years:

http://www.geraldschroeder.com/AgeUniverse.aspx

comments?

[Jack]

Raining frogs is indeed possible:
''In 1873, Scientific American reported that Kansas City, Missouri was blanketed with frogs that dropped from the sky during a storm.''

Good find, another quite natural phenomena that doesn't require a god to explain.

[Peter]

They don't, there real....but they don't kill because of that, it is human nature

They're real? Evidence please. Something not based on complete ignorance of science would be most welcome.

[Peter]

Well since you put me in parenthesis, I feel compeled to give you a reasonable answer from my perspective. I never blew anyone up, nor have I ever had any inclination to do so. Further more no one has tried to convince me that is what I must do to show my faith as superior to other faiths. Also, war crimes are mostly committed by secularist seeking monetary gain, power and position. Heck, even the war on terror is about control over land albeit it is under the guise of religion. From the stand point of Islam that is. Funny they don't demand land from any poor nations don't you think?

If God were imaginary you would have a point. Funny how atheist can't understand God as a source of knowledge just because they have no access. Anyway for one to think they know another's relationships better then they and who seems to think all of mans atrocities are a result of faith; to the extent one thinks the world will end despite facts contrary to that premise; is what sounds unreasonable. Not someone who believes in God.

Your response missed the point. Your faith in your god enables others faith in their own gods when the only rational conclusion is that there are no gods. I'm very happy that christianity has moderated from it's original practice so you don't personally blow anyone up but, to me, christianity is only slightly less insane than islam.

I suppose that you will contend that your god is the only true god and all the others are false gods and if everyone just worshipped your god then there wouldn't be all this blowing people up. This is exactly the kind of thinking I'm talking about that is tearing our world apart.

[loser]

How do you expect me to take you seriously if you refuse to even accept dinosaurs existed...?

Where did you get that idea? What does your logic and reason tell you about WHEN dinosaurs died out? Were dinosaurs contemporary with Noah and the flood? Is it possible that a few 'dinosaurs' still exist today? Would they be reptiles, amphibians, birds or perhaps even mammals? I KNOW dinosaurs existed...a long, long time before they were first called that in 1842. In the past, they were called dragons. I know that MANY animals existed in the past that may or may not be now extinct, including unicorns. Do you believe that unicorns once existed? If not, how do you expect me to take you seriously?

[Peter]

Jehovah is the Jewish God, the God of Israel.

Obviously, but why do you worship jesus? Is it an accident of birth that your parents weren't jewish?[/quote]

Zeus is mythological.

Prove it. I believe in Zeus for my own reasons. You believe in Jehovah for your own reasons. The real evidence for both is exactly zero. Prove Zeus is mythological and your god is real.

Time and location? I was born in the Bible belt when religion still had a great deal of influence, but I was born and raised an atheist and remained atheist until I was 27.

I have studied briefly the history of Buddhism, Christianity, Confucianism, Hinduism, Islam, Judaism, Shintoism, and Taoism See The Theist | Religion I have also studied The Dhammapada, Analects, Bhagavad Gita, Qur'an, Pirqe Aboth, Tao Te Ching, and Chuang Tzu. See The Theist | Library

So you actually picked christianity after studying most of the other mainstream religions? Wow. What religion would you have picked if you happened to be born in China in 200 BCE? Humans have adopted thousands of religions down through the ages and the single most important factor in picking a religion is what your parents are.

[HoleyCarbonGrid]

In the past, they were called dragons. I know that MANY animals existed in the past that may or may not be now extinct, including unicorns. Do you believe that unicorns once existed? If not, how do you expect me to take you seriously?

You cannot be serious. Do you really think unicorns ever existed? If so, to what genus do you suppose they belonged, and when did they exist?