The Bible . . . And SCIENCE!

[sthack99]

And that's where you introduce error. All of the diversity of animals and plants DID NOT originate from a single source. The differences were CREATED, they did NOT evolve. The taxonomy tree is incorrect. Instead of starting with a single tree, they were started with a FOREST of DIFFERENT trees, evolving from there.

Everything is evolving right before your very eyes! You can't put a brick wall in front of evolution and force it to stay within a certain boundary. Eventually things evolve far enough apart where they can no longer breed with one another (as shown with the rabbits) and then where they no longer look the same. That doesn't mean they did not come from the same initial source. The fossil record and genetics proves that they in fact did.

[finder]

And why isn't anyone responding to my point about ring species???

Do you have an example of human "ring species?"

[sthack99]

Do you have an example of human "ring species?"

I don't understand why I would need a human example to prove it's existence, however to answer your question...

Humans are constantly coming in contact and breeding with other types (races) of humans. Unless we can isolate a group from the rest of the world for at least 1,000's of years (I'm guessing on the time frame, as there are many variables that play a role in determining how fast something evolves, so it could take a lot longer), you'll never have a variety of human that has evolved dramatically from the rest. Unfortunately, with the ability to travel to any country we want at any time, it may be impossible for humans to evolve into separate groups of humans.

You can consider other apes our "ring species" relative, since we cannot mate with other apes, nor can other apes mate with other types of apes (such as gorillas and orangutans), however it's obvious we are closely related. Unfortunately our closest relative (the Neanderthals) died out a long time ago. By now they would have been a prime "ring-species" example, unless we had started interbreeding again sometime inbetween.

[finder]

Your ignorance of evolution is showing again Finder.

The genetic diversity of humans today tells us that at no point could there ever have been just two humans on the planet. In fact, it's quite impossible, genetically, to get from the 8 miserable overworked passengers of the ark to the genetic diversity of humans today without invoking magic.

From Talkorigins.



Why do some theists continue to try and square any of their ridiculously absurd beliefs with real science. Just say God-Did-It and leave it at that. Personally, I'm convinced Leprechauns did it all. Go ahead, prove me wrong!!

Did you notice the links I posted in # 55?

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...evolution.html

http://www.livescience.com/3224-supe...n-animals.html

Now if all life is just a variance of the original life as evolutionist posit, then why wouldn't humans be able to diversify at the genetic level that soon? Unless you really do think "talk origins" and leprechauns supersedes real science?

[el ايمان]

Do you have an example of human "ring species?"

I have to agree that I don't see how this is relevant.

[sthack99]

Did you notice the links I posted in # 55?

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...evolution.html

http://www.livescience.com/3224-supe...n-animals.html

Now if all life is just a variance of the original life as evolutionist posit, then why wouldn't humans be able to diversify at the genetic level that soon? Unless you really do think "talk origins" and leprechauns supersedes real science?

Finder, refer to my previous post. It answers your "human diversity" question.

[finder]

Unfortunately, with the ability to travel to any country we want at any time, it may be impossible for humans to evolve into separate groups of humans.

So intelligence has in a way, trumped evolution?

[el ايمان]

So intelligence has in a way, trumped evolution?

No. Humans have simply put a dent into their own species divergence because homogenous society is becoming less popular. That doesn't stop us from evolving.

[finder]

Finder, refer to my previous post. It answers your "human diversity" question.

Wait a minute. We didn't have the ability to fly around the world some 6000 years ago. so your "we can.t segregate to allow evolution to change us into new species" explanation doesn't fly.

[sthack99]

So intelligence has in a way, trumped evolution?

No, it has trumped isolation and diversity. We are still evolving...just together. It's quite beautiful if you think about it.

[finder]

No. Humans have simply put a dent into their own species divergence because homogenous society is becoming less popular. That doesn't stop us from evolving.

Proof, documentation?

[finder]

No, it has trumped isolation and diversity. We are still evolving...just together. It's quite beautiful if you think about it.

Please elaborate. How are we evolving "together?" Are we all growing fat together because genetically engineered foods?