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    There is a difference between respecting someone's beliefs and respecting the actual person. For example, I'll respect you as a person meaning I won't curse you out or attack you for not thinking how I think. But at the same time, if you were to come to my house telling me to worship Buddha, I'm not going to respond with "to each his own".


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    Quote Quote by: NoJingoLingo View Post
    Are you sure they are meant to demean and malign THEISTS or their belief?
    You have to remember that a lot of theists can't understand the difference between the two.

    In my experience as an atheist, theists are much more demeaning towards atheists. Having lived in NC near the SC border I can tell you that my vehicle has been vandalized, I have been shunned and shouted at by theists. Stickers on my truck were literally scraped off and before that incident I was honked at and given the finger... by ELDERLY PEOPLE!!
    Same thing happened to me. Years ago, I had a Darwin Fish on my van. Instead of someone just removing it, they took a 3" steel pipe and punched a hole in the back door of the van, costing me hundreds of dollars to repair.

    Damn theists.


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    I have always found this bumper sticker to be quite insulting. Although I have a sense of humor, never made any comments to the fools sporting such nonsense. I just giggled to myself and carried on.

    When I was younger I applied this sticker to my truck;



    It was gouged with something metal, mostly removed and my paint was scratched bare. So much for turning the other cheek, aye? I don't actually believe in or worship Satan. I applied the sticker as a sort of humorous social experiment. I didn't really expect such a venomous response.

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    So you guys still advocate making statements with bumper stickers? How about my fav ignorant bumper sticker: COPS SUCK The bigger the letters the better the effect. How can any not expect trouble with those bumper stickers? And I thought Christians owned martyrdom. Go figure.

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    Quote Quote by: minorwork View Post
    So you guys still advocate making statements with bumper stickers? How about my fav ignorant bumper sticker: COPS SUCK The bigger the letters the better the effect. How can any not expect trouble with those bumper stickers? And I thought Christians owned martyrdom. Go figure.
    No.

    I said "When I was younger".....as in my early 20's. 15 years ago or so I saw the sticker in a Karma record shop, giggled and bought it. I thought it would be a humorous thumb of the nose at society. Not real funny when I had my truck scratched.

    And I thought Christians owned martyrdom.
    You don't read the news much, do you?

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    Quote Quote by: ruksak View Post
    I said "When I was younger".....as in my early 20's. 15 years ago or so I saw the sticker in a Karma record shop, giggled and bought it. I thought it would be a humorous thumb of the nose at society. Not real funny when I had my truck scratched.
    The young and foolish days. Know them well. Even a local sports team booster sticker was cause for vandals to give a free pin stripe with a nail in the emblem of an opposing towns team mascot.

    You don't read the news much, do you?
    Well it's an election year after all. Pretty prophetic about what will be on the news and tube this year I am. Bet you are too.

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    Quote Quote by: minorwork View Post
    The young and foolish days. Know them well. Even a local sports team booster sticker was cause for vandals to give a free pin stripe with a nail in the emblem of an opposing towns team mascot.
    lol.....I had a sticker not long after that that said "NASCAR is for fags". Which resulted in a serious incident in which the police were called and my sidearm was wrongly confiscated for several days. Yes, I was a slow learner.

    Well it's an election year after all. Pretty prophetic about what will be on the news and tube this year I am. Bet you are too.
    Aye. I believe Christians are the passive aggressive of the Martyrdom realm.

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    Quote Quote by: ruksak View Post
    Aye. I believe Christians are the passive aggressive of the Martyrdom realm.
    That's an astute observation. Why I was beginning to wonder if it wasn't free speech via bumper sticker pulling up on the outside in turn 4 that made me regret my original bet.

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    Quote Quote by: minorwork View Post
    So you guys still advocate making statements with bumper stickers? How about my fav ignorant bumper sticker: COPS SUCK The bigger the letters the better the effect. How can any not expect trouble with those bumper stickers? And I thought Christians owned martyrdom. Go figure.
    I live in Georgia, and I have a bumper sticker in my back window that has a crossed out confederate flag and the words "You lost, get over it!" next to it. I want to be confronted about it, that's the whole reason I put it there.

    "In all affairs it's a healthy thing now and then to hang a question mark on the things you have long taken for granted." -Bertrand Russell

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    Quote Quote by: Apeman81 View Post
    1. Yes
    2. Thanks for demonstrating my point.

    BTW, What did the stickers that were removed say?
    "My T-Rex eats your Jesus fish"
    and
    "Atheists for Peace, compassion is the rational choice"

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    The "Critical Left"? Better than the "Ignorant Right".

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    Quote Quote by: NoJingoLingo View Post
    "My T-Rex eats your Jesus fish"
    and
    "Atheists for Peace, compassion is the rational choice"
    Some people should really lighten up.

    I can offer advice and counsel concerning your choice of beliefs, I can warn you of the consequence of such beliefs according to my beliefs, and I can even exhaust myself trying to get you to change your mind. In the end, the decision is yours. Your will is free to choose.

    But I, or anyone for that matter, should never visit physical harm upon you in any form because you do not heed them.

    In my youth, late 70s, my upthrust finger toward convention as represented in a bumper sticker was "I speed up to hit little animals"

    The tree of liberty is hungry. Let's feed it well in the next election.

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    Oh yes because theists are lacking compassion and rational choice, NoJingoLingo?

    Of course there are theists devoid of compassion because the have become zealots. The majority of theists are rational and perform in society befittingly. The same can be said for atheists. To many feel they hold the right to say what they wish regarding the religious and non-religious alike. Are we so deadly sure ourselves that our belief (or non) is the one and only that we cannot even comprehend another's pov? We can't even think that person's heart is beating as I type and as you read?

    If not, I fear for our children. This war we are slowly fanning the flames to has been building for years. It will gouge the earth (and the people's on it) until we no longer recognize it. When will we realize tit for tat never worked? I hope to hell the next generation (or the next) able to take on this task because this one is not.

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