The Christmas story revolves around what Christians imagine as the virgin birth of Jesus the Christ who came to save the world.
We have the story interpreted as Mary and Joseph being man and wife, but, before they came together sexually Mary is found with child of the Holy Ghost. The virgin has thus conceived a human from a god called "the Holy Spirit".(Ghost)
(The disciples never tell this version of the story. Therefore, the interpretation by the church is highly suspect?)
The Trinity is founded on this imaginary concept and by which the Catholic church fathers concluded as three entities being one God and so the Trinity was created in their image and in their likeness. When there arose division in the church, and Martin Luther cursed his way through hell and half of Georgia, :) the NEW protestors began to pull away from the mother church represented by the pious Poperri and started calling themselves by their new name "Protestants". (Certainly an original and creative touch in those days?)
When the Protestants divided themselves from the Catholics, they kept the image of the three headed god in Jesus name. God and Jesus were one. The Holy Spirit, God and Jesus were one and the same.
But..What was "conceived" in Mary was NOT sexual activity by a ghostly character. And the Christmas story presents itself in an ideology of a tradition which began as the nation of Israel was formed. So we see how "in the beginning" of Israel was the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word was God.
Who was the Word? "God". And God was law in commandments given(spoken) by Moses.
"What was conceived in Mary" relates how the priesthood of Levi was formed at the beginning of Israel. Levi being covenanted to God shows how the lineage of priests was conceived. Malachi confirms the Levite name which was also seen as the wife of Israel's youth. When presenting argument for the Levitical body of priests, the prophet reminds Jerusalem(the Jews), "have we not all one father?" In this discussion the prophet is focused on "all" twelve tribes of Jacob in their 12 tribal names. This comprised the "whole" of Israel or "(w)holy people" .
"What was conceived in Mary" was how Jesus was sent through the Levitical line of priests. Mary was a daughter of Levitical heritage. Jesus tells John the Baptist, who was also a Levite priest, "it hath come to us to fulfill all these things". Herein, Jesus is speaking to the obligation and duties of their priestly service, their having been made a "sacrifice" in service to the congregation of Israel.
What did Jesus do that prophets before him had not done? Considering that prophets before Jesus were also in succession of priests from Melchezedec to Jesus, Jesus is the only one who successfully "raised up" the dead - those who were ignorant (asleep, unconscious) those who had not been made aware of their inheritance as judges and priests in Israel.
"What was conceived in Mary" was of the "word" established at the beginning of the nation of Israel when Moses selected the Levite families as the chosen people for the priesthood. Out of all the tribes of Israel the Levites were the "elect" and the "anointed" body of men to offer themselves as a sacrifice to the people of Israel.
Were there not any other names above the name of Christ in his appointed role? None. What about the Jews at Jerusalem? The name Judah(Jews) inherited land called Judah. But the priesthood inheritance belonged to the name Levi. "Gods chosen people" are seen in the name Levi. The "elect" out of all the tribes is seen as Levite. And it was these dead "stones" that Jesus "raised up" not to ever see death a second time.
"What was conceived in Mary" was the proper governing order by commandment as established in the beginning of Israel as a nation. Jesus succeeded in overturning the strongman's house (babylonian Phariseism) and returning the rightful inheritors name to the Kingdom of God, the Temple of men in Levi name who were originally selected to serve forever as priests. The New Jerusalem is thus seen in the overturning of the priesthood. However, ..
Some believed and some did not.
How did foreigners (not of Jacob-Israel) take the body of Christ out of Israel and present it as their own Gentile religion?
"Many shall come in my name saying they are Christ...but believe them not..."
interesting questions posed. i actually read the whole thing, it was a little hard to follow grammatically but the message intrigued me enough to keep going with it.
When Martin King Jr said he had a dream, he was talking about a vision. For dreams are not texts we read, but are visionary images into which the mind walks and talks.
Mother Mary had a vision, and conceaved that vision in the womb of her mind. And it is the vision that then became the foundation for the new religion. Later on, girl friend Mary also had a vision, a vision of Jesus by the roadside after he had been laid away in the tomb of death, in her vision he was alive again, and that vision she gave to the deciples, and they believed. And that was the 3rd vision. The first vision was from Eve, for her vision of the serpent of wisdom, and it said "fear not, for you will become as a God", and those visions thusly fulfilled by our vision of Jesus as the god of flesh and spirit.
I call those the three visions, as given to us by woman.
So that is what the spirit of Christmas is all about, the vision. The vision of harmony, peace, and brothery love, the vision is the gift of the dream weaver. For all lights on the Christmas tree are plugged into one outlet and one souce of illumination.
Suburbnite, you actually read the whole thing? Even with your grammatically difficulty?
I'm glad you found my interpretation of how Jesus came into the world of Judaism "interesting".
Would you like to know how the wise men followed the star in the east?
Do you think I clarified sufficiently that Jesus as a priest serving through his time and effort to the congregation of tribes is how he became known as "the sacrifice" to men? Are not all ministers of the word giving themselves as a sacrifice
Why do you think Joseph feared to take unto himself Mary, his wife? I know the story says that Joseph did not want to make Mary a public example, and he was willing to put her away from him privately, but what would that imply? A bill of divorcement would then be necessitated. This has to do with "before they came together". Do you think this speaks to sex between Mary and Joseph or does it mean before Joseph brought Mary into his own house name? For if we look at traditions in tribes then we can see how two houses are united in marriage. Which two houses? Two covenants? Were the two not made one? Are we speaking in metaphors concerning men and traditions?
Old Testament Ezra had ordered the sons of Jacob to put away their foreign wives along with their offspring. Families were divided and children were lost to the name Israel. Did Joseph fear separation would humiliate Mary, cause an offense to tradition? Why had Mary and her cousin Elizabeth seen themselves as a reproach to men?
What does this do to the imagined Christmas story? Were Gentiles ever approved to be called "sons of God"?
The vision was not Mary's to complete. The vision was established already, from the beginning of Israel as a nation. The governing body of Israel was formed in the Levite body of men. This was called "the Kingdom of God", for the body of Levite priests was the inheritance of God; thus the Temple of men is seen in this body called anointed "Christ". Jesus was one man as a member of that body "elect".
I think all lights on the Christmas tree are illuminated in the 12 sons of Jacob called Israel.
Reply With Quote
Bookmarks