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    Bnet,
    Its been fun but I have to work tomorrow so I'm off to bed. God bless you and you take care.


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    Quote Quote by: texasdave View Post
    Bnet,
    Its been fun but I have to work tomorrow so I'm off to bed. God bless you and you take care.
    I clap for you putting on such an effort. Bye.


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    Quote Quote by: Hylife View Post
    actually, no, I did explain it. Sin makes us God's enemies. Through sin we will ALWAYS be God's enemies. He can't stand us in his presence, nor can sin stand us in his; crud, if God appeared to someone in his full glory in the OT they died!
    No, that's not an explanation. I want to know why any sin is infinite. You've basically admitted that its infinite just because God is emotionally unstable.

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    Quote Quote by: texasdave View Post
    By rejecting God you are rejecting the purpose for which you were created.
    No sir. We aren't all rejecting God, we simply have no reason to even believe your god over the hundreds of other gods. There's a big difference, and by playing with semantics it's as if you think we know God and chose Hell. Which would be correct for many of us as your god churns our stomachs inside out with repulsiveness. You have no idea how silly and cruel your god looks to most everyone that doesn't believe. There's a reason for that.

    It shows extreme ignorance on God's part to expect the inhabitants of his shit hole world to find him when he only seems to reveal himself to those that believe. Your god is NOTHING special. There are hundreds of others and it takes a real cruel being to not understand that. It takes an even more cruel being to not understand that then eternally punish those unlucky or faulty enough to not find and feed God's ego.

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    Look, that is the explanation. You don't have to believe it and quite frankly I don't care what you believe. Neither you nor I are God, and thus we have no right to question the motives of a just, loving, and righteouss God. God hates all sin and sin is disobedience. If you can't obey God then God won't make you. But note he does care and he does want you with him, otherwise he wouldn't have sent Christ..


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    Quote Quote by: Hylife View Post
    Look, that is the explanation. You don't have to believe it and quite frankly I don't care what you believe. Neither you nor I are God, and thus we have no right to question the motives of a just, loving, and righteouss God. God hates all sin and sin is disobedience. If you can't obey God then God won't make you. But note he does care and he does want you with him, otherwise he wouldn't have sent Christ..
    ...via a drug hallucination a rabbi experienced. Look, outside the Bible, the statements are just plain ridiculous. If a guy never heard of religion and at 30 yr. old he picked up the Bible, do you think he would say "Wow. Obviously the stuff is all true"? Absolutely not.


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    Quote Quote by: Hylife View Post
    Look, that is the explanation. You don't have to believe it and quite frankly I don't care what you believe. Neither you nor I are God, and thus we have no right to question the motives of a just, loving, and righteouss God. God hates all sin and sin is disobedience. If you can't obey God then God won't make you. But note he does care and he does want you with him, otherwise he wouldn't have sent Christ..
    Your answer simply does not suffice.

    I'll try to explain your own answer for you.. tell me if I'm right.

    Since God is of infinite importance.. upsetting him is disturbing something of an infinite degree.

    Is that right?

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    Is there infinite sin?


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    Hylife
    a just, loving, and righteouss God. God hates
    I note a slight contradiction there, do you?

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    Is there infinite sin?
    Only on my good days.


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    Why is it I start to laugh when I try to picture the dalai lama infinitely burning in the fires of hell for being such a massive sinner and all round bad person.

    For every man who lives without freedom, the rest of us must face the guilt
    ---Lillian Hellman, The Watch on the Rhine, 1941

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    banco,
    The Dalai Lama is not a bad person in worldly terms. Let me explain. If your earthly father created you and took care of your every need and , in fact, there could be no survival without him but you chose to ignore hiim and mock him by both your actions and words, do you think that when the end of your life came that you should be included in his will? Of course not. If you refused to even acknowledge him and wanted no part of him then you have nothing to complain about when he eventually completely cuts you off. Same with our heavenly Father. If you want no part of Him then you will get your wish. But I'm here to tell you that is a bad choice.


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    Quote Quote by: texasdave View Post
    banco,
    The Dalai Lama is not a bad person in worldly terms. Let me explain. If your earthly father created you and took care of your every need and , in fact, there could be no survival without him but you chose to ignore hiim and mock him by both your actions and words, do you think that when the end of your life came that you should be included in his will? Of course not. If you refused to even acknowledge him and wanted no part of him then you have nothing to complain about when he eventually completely cuts you off. Same with our heavenly Father. If you want no part of Him then you will get your wish. But I'm here to tell you that is a bad choice.
    So you have clearly portrayed god as a vendictive, ego-centered person who gets all pissy when you don't worship him - does god have low self-esteem? Would that be blasphemy if he didn't believe in himself?

    So then the dalai lama will burn in hell - that makes me laugh. He has done more good in life for humanity than you could ever even dream to acheive yet he goes to hell - good god you have there.

    For every man who lives without freedom, the rest of us must face the guilt
    ---Lillian Hellman, The Watch on the Rhine, 1941

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