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    Quote Quote by: Arawn-ap-Hywel View Post
    Ah i see
    You agree there is no such thing as sin?
    No, I don't agree with that. I know what a sin is.. it's disobedience towards a religious being or law. They do exist.

    If you're trying to say, there is no such thing as a secret scoreboard racking up your sins for judgment, then yeah.. I would agree with that.

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    Quote Quote by: texasdave View Post
    Here is your answer. Your sin of rejecting God is infinite. Thus your banishment from God's presence is infinite. You choose to deny God either by word or action ( or both) so hell is the fruition of your choice. You are created with an infinite spirit so your rejection of sin is infinite. You wrongly assume it is finite because your chance to decide ( your life in this world) is finite. You can't be given infinite time to decide. Choose wisely.
    Didn't god say not to kill others? Didn't Jesus say let he who is without sin cast the first stone? Since you most likely believe in the death penalty (or someone you knows), I think they will go to hell for supporting the destruction of another person!!!!! You are blasphemous for rejecting God and his Son!!!!! burn!!!!!!!!!!


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    Your second definition is the correct one. Truthfully, I have no answer for you, Lullaby Chainer. Its just one of those things you will never know 100% sure, like many other things. Personally, I don't like this thread much. I could ask, "How was the Earth created?" and you couldn't answer me correctly. You could make a strongly educated GUESS, but that isn't 100% sure. This thread doesn't make much sense to me.

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    Quote Quote by: Luxavius View Post
    Didn't god say not to kill others? Didn't Jesus say let he who is without sin cast the first stone? Since you most likely believe in the death penalty (or someone you knows), I think they will go to hell for supporting the destruction of another person!!!!! You are blasphemous for rejecting God and his Son!!!!! burn!!!!!!!!!!

    Luxavious, you didn't get the point. By the way, killing IS wrong, unless your protecting someone else or yourself (self-defense) or that is their just and rightful punishment. "Eye for Eye, Tooth for Tooth, and Soul for Soul."

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    Quote Quote by: Dr.Debate View Post
    Luxavious, you didn't get the point. By the way, killing IS wrong, unless your protecting someone else or yourself (self-defense) or that is their just and rightful punishment. "Eye for Eye, Tooth for Tooth, and Soul for Soul."
    I see your point about killing being wrong. I don't kill because I think I'm being watched and judged, but because it betters society and that lump of cells in our heads have developed advanced consciousness and empathy as well as such crimes would have backlash on one's self in any developed society.


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    By rejecting God you are rejecting the purpose for which you were created. If a part on your car breaks you either fix it or throw it away and replace it. Also, we on earth also do not equate the seriousness of a crime by the length of time it takes to commit it. Three seconds to murder someone can get you life in prison. The duration of the act itself is not necessarily indicative of its seriousness. But you are an infinite being created in the image of God. If you reject God infinitely then hell is justifiable. And the only ones there will be those who have rejected Him infinitely.


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    Quote Quote by: texasdave View Post
    By rejecting God you are rejecting the purpose for which you were created. If a part on your car breaks you either fix it or throw it away and replace it. Also, we on earth also do not equate the seriousness of a crime by the length of time it takes to commit it. Three seconds to murder someone can get you life in prison. The duration of the act itself is not necessarily indicative of its seriousness. But you are an infinite being created in the image of God. If you reject God infinitely then hell is justifiable. And the only ones there will be those who have rejected Him infinitely.
    No. I'm not rejecting the purpose for which I was created. That purpose was my parents wished to have a child. I believe in no after life so I will savor my time here much more. I don't believe in Hell either so I don't have to worry about a magic man watching and recording everything I do. Not amount of "Hell Terrorism" is going to scare me into faith. Sorry it did to you.


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    Quote Quote by: Lullaby Chainer View Post
    You forgot to explain how any sin is deserving of infinite punishment. Are all sins infinite? If not, then the punishment is unjust.
    actually, no, I did explain it. Sin makes us God's enemies. Through sin we will ALWAYS be God's enemies. He can't stand us in his presence, nor can sin stand us in his; crud, if God appeared to someone in his full glory in the OT they died!


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    Bnet,
    Then life for you has no purpose. No meaning.


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    Quote Quote by: texasdave View Post
    Bnet,
    Then life for you has no purpose. No meaning.
    Yes. With Religion life has so much meaning. You have to follow a book of outdated rules with no relevance to today and if you don't follow all these stupid rules then you'll be sent to a fiery place for eternity even if you never heard of the Bible. Then you go to a magical place where the king is a misogynist, racist lunatic that made his followers eat excrement. I have a purpose to help others and make our short time on here enjoyable. My purpose, enjoy this life.


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    Bnet,
    Why are you angry at God?


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    Quote Quote by: texasdave View Post
    Bnet,
    Why are you angry at God?
    How can I be angry at something I believe to be nonexistent? I'm angry at people with their delusions trying to make their beliefs law. That is like saying "Why do you hate Unicorns so much?"


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