When should Atheism be sorted out?

[ruiner]

Really, I think you''re just having us on. Nobody's THAT crazy. Are they?

You would think so wouldn't you?

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[Pooeypants]

Originally posted by ruiner,


You would think so wouldn't you?

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Hmm, an extremist's forum. Okey dokey. Anyway Ruiner, joke over, be sensible now.

[ruiner]

okay. Seriously though, everything I said is based at some time on things I have heard others seriously put forward.

[Pooeypants]

Originally posted by ruiner,
okay. Seriously though, everything I said is based at some time on things I have heard others seriously put forward.

I've heard some of the things you brought up but I guess you must have contact with more fundementalists than I do, I assume you're from the US?

[ruiner]

a few fundamentalists. They are alright people really until you get onto politics. no I dont live in the US, dont have such luck

[Scribbler1]

Originally posted by ruiner,
okay. Seriously though, everything I said is based at some time on things I have heard others seriously put forward.

Unfortunately, I have heard all this before too. My biggest fear is the political angle. Either these people (likely) are simply pandering to potential fundamentalist voters, or they really believe the United States is a monotheistic country and all the "fringe" religions should be put in their place, a mindset you illustrated so well that is too prevalent in this country.

Those who DO see things that way are getting too close to the Taliban mindset to suit me.

[LogicaLunatic]

Originally posted by ruiner,
I would like to leave you all with a quick thought:
How many people have marvelled at the butterfly or imagined soaring above the mountains with the eagle? And yet how many of these people have denied divine Creation of these wonderful creatures? No doubt if the butterfly and eagle could talk they would shout "God made us you idiot!", but unfortunately they cannot (they have no vocal chords). Without faith the truth will always remain illusive.

You're correct, butterflys and eagles cannot speak. But perhaps there is another animal that can communicate verbally. It just so happens there is at least one... the elusive human. Lets see what these magnificant creatures have to say on the subject...

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[LogicaLunatic]

Originally posted by ruiner,+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ruiner,)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Yes, even bad decisions have thought behind them. The thought in this case is usually "I dont want to stick by the rules this country was built upon, I want to be able to sin but God won&#39;t let me". So they decide the best course is to rebel against God. My main aim today is to get these people back on ship.[/b]

Yes, this is the argument that Michael Newdow used to convince the 9th circut court. This is also the argument that made the Supreme Court decide the way they did in Roe Vs. Wade.

You&#39;re hillarious&#33;

Originally posted by ruiner,+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ruiner,)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Religion has become a lot more central to this country since President Bush has been elected. He will get a second term and in it he will start revoking all those silly atheist supported liberal laws. First will be roe vs wade and then creationism will finally get into schools. There is no point resisting - why bother? Grow out of your childish rebellelion and embrace the Bible.[/b]

My statement about the decline of religion is based on a trend that has lasted over 100 years. I doubt this trend will reverse based upon the actions of one a single president.

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Unfortunately the liberal version of science has been on the way out for years. People are finally waking up to the fact that it is nowadays producing nothing than liberal driven fantasies from "bacteria to man" to global warming. There is an apt Bible verse about modern science:
Romans 1:22 "Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools"[/quote]
again... The nice thing about science is that the OUTCOME of good* scientific research cannot be effected by the scientist&#39;s beliefs. The only thing that CAN be effected is what is actually researched. If you disagree then you don&#39;t understand the nature of science and therefore shouldn&#39;t discuss it.

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Unfortunately these cannot be counted as real churches, just as the "church" of Rael isn&#39;t a real christian church&#33; There are certain principles in the Bible that must be followed. If you don&#39;t follow them you cannot be a real christian.[/quote]

Millions of people believe THEIR version of christianity or THEIR church is the only "real" christian church. Please explain why they are wrong and you are right.

LogicaLunatic

*By good scientific research I mean research that follows the rules of the scientific method and is open to peer review by other scientists.

[donkrabbit]

Originally posted by donkrabbit,
Specifically how are my "interpretations" subjective?

ruiner, are you just going to avoid answering this question? If so, then please at least admit that it was a baseless claim. The statistics that I provided were no less objective than yours. Just because you disagree with what the statistics prove does not mean that they are "subjective".

[Sonart]

That was my point - evolutionists have decided that since creationism cannot be proven, that means their theory must be correct, forgetting scientists call it a theory for a reason. And the same goes for Creationists.

It&#39;s not about what can or cannot be proven, Mia, since, as has been pointed out, one cannot prove evolution either. It&#39;s about what centuries of scientific exploration, evidence and experimentation have pointed to as the truth.

ruiner -- Atheism banned.

Good one, dood. How exactly would that be enforced, hmmm? What would be the penalty for Atheism in the 1st degree?

Y&#39;know, I&#39;ve been waiting for years to say this to a conservative... Our Country, Love it or Leave it. If you don&#39;t like how we do things here in America, then leave.

less earthquakes and hurricanes, more food and money, etc.

Stop it, ruiner. I spewed soda all over my keyboard. I&#39;m laughing so much it hurts.

Joseph Stalin, Atheist: 20 million plus dead, etc. etc. etc.

Apparently the Bible does not have a problem with mass murder either.

Joshua 6:21: "And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword."

Numbers 31:1-18: "...And they warred against the Midianites, as the Lord commanded moses, and they slew all the [adult] males. And the children of Israel took all the women of Midian captives, and their little ones...And they brought the captives, and the prey, and the spoil, unto Moses...And Moses was angry with the officers of the host And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive? Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Ba&#39;laam, to commit trespass against the Lord in the matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the Lord. Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the female children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves."

[Ralph38449]

I want to know why everyone is speeking about atheism like a highly organized group. It is a very personal concept. Now some people may claim to represent atheists, yet an atheist has his/her own level of belief and disbelief. They pick what they believe instead of following someone elses beliefs.

Now why do atheists have to be sorted out? There is very little threat in single persons.

Now for the flogging of Christianity, why don&#39;t we sort them outuntill they can collectively decide how to what is exactually the way their religion should be practiced, like a real religion.

Atheism is not a collective religion, it is not the hive, the borg, or the collective.

Also, what about agnostics?

[Sonart]

Atheism is not a collective religion, it is not the hive, the borg, or the collective.

Apparently some religious leaders feel it&#39;s to their advantage to paint atheism as a collective &#39;borg&#39;, the better to rally the faithful behind them against a common enemy,