False Flag Operations in Iraq

[PatrickHenry]

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...&articleId=994

Recent events in Basra have raised suspicions that the British army may have reactivated these same tactics in Iraq. Articles published by Michel Chossudovsky, Larry Chin and Mike Whitney at the Centre for Research on Globalization’s website on September 20, 2005 have offered preliminary assessments of the claims of Iraqi authorities that two British soldiers in civilian clothes who were arrested by Iraqi police in Basra on September 19—and in short order released by a British tank and helicopter assault on the prison where they were being held—had been engaged in planting bombs in the city See: http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...&articleId=972 http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...&articleId=982 http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...&articleId=981 A further article by Kurt Nimmo points to false-flag operations carried out by British special forces troops in Northern Ireland and elsewhere, and to Donald Rumsfeld’s formation of the P2OG, or Proactive Preemptive Operations Group, as directly relevant to Iraqi charges of possible false-flag terror operations by the occupying powers in Iraq... These accusations by Iraqi officials echo insistent but unsubstantiated claims, going back at least to the spring of 2004, to the effect that many of the terror bombings carried out against civilian targets in Iraq have actually been perpetrated by U.S. and British forces rather than by Iraqi insurgents.

This isn't the first time I have encountered allegations that the bombers in Iraq aren't all as the media screams...

[The Dunedan]

Do you really expect better from the Brits? Are the 2 Para over there? It wouldn't surprise me...

[PatrickHenry]

Quote by: The Dunedan Do you really expect better from the Brits? Are the 2 Para over there? It wouldn't surprise me...

http://www.army.mod.uk/news/operatio...t_for_iraq.htm

No surprises here...

[The Dunedan]

Figures. Wherever the Crown wants its' really dirty work done, these buggers are to be found. I'd even take an SAS-man before one of these guys.

[Milton Bradley]

Quote by: PatrickHenry This isn't the first time I have encountered allegations that the bombers in Iraq aren't all as the media screams...

Oh, that is just cynical Patrick. I mean, I 'm sure it is pure coincidence that the cameras are almost always pointed right at the appropriate place when the bomb goes off.


I certainly see no reason to doubt those hundreds of coincidences. It is the coincidences that are a coincidence, right?

[Sonart]

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Quote by: Milton Bradley Oh, that is just cynical Patrick. I mean, I 'm sure it is pure coincidence that the cameras are almost always pointed right at the appropriate place when the bomb goes off.

The Iraqi insurgents and terrorists proudly videotape their bombings, then get them aired on Arab media or their own websites.

I'm not commenting one way or another on PH's allegations, but let's start from a position of both feet planted on the ground, shall we.

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[Milton Bradley]

Quote by: Sonart . The Iraqi insurgents and terrorists proudly videotape their bombings, then get them aired on Arab media or their own websites. I'm not commenting one way or another on PH's allegations, but let's start from a position of both feet planted on the ground, shall we. .

Oh, my feet are on the ground all right, it's where I keep my head that concerns me.


You just go ahead, and bury your head in the, uh, "sand" pally, it's a free country, and I will make no effort to "police" your thoughts. Feel free to exercise your right apply your own special brand of common sense in any manor you see fit.

[PatrickHenry]

Quote by: Sonart The Iraqi insurgents and terrorists proudly videotape their bombings, then get them aired on Arab media or their own websites. I'm not commenting one way or another on PH's allegations, but let's start from a position of both feet planted on the ground, shall we.

I'm not actually making the allegation at this point, Sonart. The people I quoted are noting the Iraqi allegations, and I am gazing at the phenomenon with binoculars. Since our worldviews differ, I don't expect a lot of agreement from you on this, but thanks for taking the time to look at it.

False flag terror has been documented in other conflicts, and I have no doubt that the P2OG wouldn't worry about a few Iraqi deaths if it increased their penetration of the opposing terror nets, or creates an atmosphere of fear that they find useful.

Ruthlessness in Iraq is rampant, and I see no reason to exclude any side on the basis of their ethics.

[Sonart]

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Quote by: PatrickHenry I'm not actually making the allegation at this point, Sonart. The people I quoted are noting the Iraqi allegations, and I am gazing at the phenomenon with binoculars. Since our worldviews differ, I don't expect a lot of agreement from you on this, but thanks for taking the time to look at it.

I was addressing Milton's comments, Patrick, not yours. As I stated, I have no definitive view on British operations in Iraq and I've taken your links for what they are, without the benefit of having seen any other points of view.

However, as with 'conspiracy' topics, I think it's important to base any debate on a fair groundwork. Milton's assumption that because there's video of bombings it is somehow added proof of British complicity is a false premise. We KNOW that the insurgents and terrorists have been consistantly recording their attacks, and that these videos are widely available. Therefore the fact that attacks have been "conveniently" recorded is not proof of anything other than insurgents and terrorists have been recording their attacks and are proud of it.

I'm not arguing with you, Patrick, I'm just trying to keep it real. Fair enough?

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[PatrickHenry]

Quote by: Sonart I'm not arguing with you, Patrick, I'm just trying to keep it real. Fair enough?

You have always been fair, Sonart.