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Technosoul · Apr 16, 2006, 08:21 pm

The news headline was "Pope prays for peace in Irag". I almost did not look at it because people have been praying for peace for years and never got the world peace they asked for.

But when I did look he made lots of very political statements, during the Easter message.

He advocated an ease to the violence in Irag, he advocated that nation would find ways to calm down the nuclear problems related to Iran, and he prayed that someday Palesitians would have their own state next to Isriel.

It seems most of what he prayed for is being prevented by our President.

The news stroy did not qoute him saying anything about how the resurection of Jesus on Easter could save peoples souls.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12319594/

Is the new Pope more politcal then religious?

Anyway, some of you will do doubt have something debatable to say about this?

The Dunedan · Apr 16, 2006, 09:03 pm

OK, I see the problem.

The article writer didn't clarify something important: the Pope's prayers for ( and remarks concerning ) Iraq And Etc were made during a portion of the Liturgy Of The Mass in which the Priest and Laity may offer up ( either vocally or silently ) any prayer they like. For example:

Celebrant ( Priest ): "For peace in Iraq, we pray to the Lord"
All: "Lord, hear our prayer."

and so on and so forth. The Homily ( sermon ) portion of the Mass, abit earlier, would have contained the Pope's Easter message.

another day · Apr 17, 2006, 04:56 am

It's Iraq, not Irag.

Marilyn Monroe · Apr 17, 2006, 07:18 am

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Quote by: Technosoul

The news headline was "Pope prays for peace in Irag". I almost did not look at it because people have been praying for peace for years and never got the world peace they asked for.

But when I did look he made lots of very political statements, during the Easter message.

He advocated an ease to the violence in Irag, he advocated that nation would find ways to calm down the nuclear problems related to Iran, and he prayed that someday Palesitians would have their own state next to Isriel.

It seems most of what he prayed for is being prevented by our President.

The news stroy did not qoute him saying anything about how the resurection of Jesus on Easter could save peoples souls.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12319594/

Is the new Pope more politcal then religious?

Anyway, some of you will do doubt have something debatable to say about this?

I don't think it was political, and it had nothing to do with Bush. There's always a need for peace somewhere, and I'd say he's more against the violence in general, we are trying to keep the peace in Iraq.

Technosoul · Apr 17, 2006, 08:29 am

I would agree that we need peace at those places the Pope mentioned, they are like torn rags due to the wars and violence.

Anyway, if some can declair a holy war, then why not a holy peace.

The angels are having a hard time trying to please everyone, when we have some folks asking for holy wars and justice and other folks asking for peace and foregivness. The angels must be a bit confused "what do those earthlings really want anyway?"

gr8fuldaniel · Apr 17, 2006, 12:23 pm

The pope could end the war in a day by telling all catholics to stop paying taxes until it ends. Remind the catholic cult followers that they are buying the bombs and bullets. They are all guilty of the murder of innocent children. They will go to hell for eternity if they pay taxes.

Edit to add:

Now, that would be a political pope.
Until then, he is a hypocrite.

Marilyn Monroe · Apr 17, 2006, 12:30 pm

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Quote by: gr8fuldaniel

The pope could end the war in a day by telling all catholics to stop paying taxes until it ends. Remind the catholic cult followers that they are buying the bombs and bullets. They are all guilty of the murder of innocent children. They will go to hell for eternity if they pay taxes.

Edit to add:

Now, that would be a political pope.
Until then, he is a hypocrite.

Catholics can't stop paying taxes, and the pope can't tell them to do that. It's not a matter of the church from what I can see. War is a civil matter, more than religious. Catholics aren't fighting this war as Catholics, but as citizens of a country, and the pope wouldn't really have juristiction over that. It's complicated, but I think I'm right.

gr8fuldaniel · Apr 17, 2006, 01:29 pm

So your position is:

Murder is sanctioned by the Catholic Cult?

Murder is good. If its ok for the government to kill for profit, it stands to reason we should all be allowed the same privelege.
Hell, they killed Jesus, didnt they. And that was the ultimate GOOD!!
Right?

Apr 16, 2006, 08:21 pm	#1 (permalink) (top)
Technosoul Volcanic Erupter Posts: 8,663	New Pope gets very political in Easter Address. The news headline was "Pope prays for peace in Irag". I almost did not look at it because people have been praying for peace for years and never got the world peace they asked for. But when I did look he made lots of very political statements, during the Easter message. He advocated an ease to the violence in Irag, he advocated that nation would find ways to calm down the nuclear problems related to Iran, and he prayed that someday Palesitians would have their own state next to Isriel. It seems most of what he prayed for is being prevented by our President. The news stroy did not qoute him saying anything about how the resurection of Jesus on Easter could save peoples souls. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12319594/ Is the new Pope more politcal then religious? Anyway, some of you will do doubt have something debatable to say about this?

Apr 17, 2006, 12:23 pm	#6 (permalink) (top)
gr8fuldaniel Fire the Liars Location: California Posts: 7,090	The pope could end the war in a day by telling all catholics to stop paying taxes until it ends. Remind the catholic cult followers that they are buying the bombs and bullets. They are all guilty of the murder of innocent children. They will go to hell for eternity if they pay taxes. Edit to add: Now, that would be a political pope. Until then, he is a hypocrite. ~~ Helpful Linx * Huff Post * WRH * RAW STORY ~~ Last edited by gr8fuldaniel; Apr 17, 2006 at 12:26 pm.

Apr 17, 2006, 01:29 pm	#8 (permalink) (top)
gr8fuldaniel Fire the Liars Location: California Posts: 7,090	So your position is: Murder is sanctioned by the Catholic Cult? Murder is good. If its ok for the government to kill for profit, it stands to reason we should all be allowed the same privelege. Hell, they killed Jesus, didnt they. And that was the ultimate GOOD!! Right? ~~ Helpful Linx * Huff Post * WRH * RAW STORY ~~

Apr 16, 2006, 09:03 pm	#2 (permalink) (top)
The Dunedan Hot Lava Posts: 917	OK, I see the problem. The article writer didn't clarify something important: the Pope's prayers for ( and remarks concerning ) Iraq And Etc were made during a portion of the Liturgy Of The Mass in which the Priest and Laity may offer up ( either vocally or silently ) any prayer they like. For example: Celebrant ( Priest ): "For peace in Iraq, we pray to the Lord" All: "Lord, hear our prayer." and so on and so forth. The Homily ( sermon ) portion of the Mass, abit earlier, would have contained the Pope's Easter message.

Apr 17, 2006, 04:56 am	#3 (permalink) (top)
another day slipping sand Posts: 1,802	It's Iraq, not Irag.

Apr 17, 2006, 08:29 am	#5 (permalink) (top)
Technosoul Volcanic Erupter Posts: 8,663	I would agree that we need peace at those places the Pope mentioned, they are like torn rags due to the wars and violence. Anyway, if some can declair a holy war, then why not a holy peace. The angels are having a hard time trying to please everyone, when we have some folks asking for holy wars and justice and other folks asking for peace and foregivness. The angels must be a bit confused "what do those earthlings really want anyway?"