20 reasons to question the official story of 9/11

[saif]

(1) The 9-11 Commission refused to examine the vast majority of evidence about 9/11, and even the former director of the FBI says there was a cover up by the 9/11 Commission

www.newsmax.com
and
www.amazon.com books


(2) USA Today stated that the FBI believed that bombs in the buildings brought the buildings down

terrorize.dk truck bombs.fbi.jack.kelley.rm


(3) MSNBC stated that police officials believe "that one of the explosions at the world trade center . . . may have been caused by a van that was parked in the building that may have had some kind of explosive device in it, so their fear is that there may have been explosive devices planted either in the building or in the adjacent area"

terrorize.dk police found explosives.wmv


(4) The NY Fire Department Chief of Safety stated there were "bombs" and "secondary devices", which caused the explosions in the buildings

terrorize.dk 911.wtc.reporter.1.wmv


(5) NYC firefighters who witnessed attacks stated that it looked like there were bombs in the buildings. A NYC firefighter stated "On the last trip up a bomb went off. We think there was bombs set in the building"

web.archive.org people special


(6) The head of a national demolition association stated that the collapse of the towers looked like a "classic controlled demolition"

www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn1281


(7) Eyewitnesses have testified that substantial explosions occurred well BELOW the area impacted by the planes, and -- according to some witnesses -- they occurred BEFORE the plane had even hit

georgewashington.blogspot.com below-belt


(8) A police officer testified that there were numerous, HUGE explosions at the top of one of the twin towers 15 minutes apart, before the tower collapsed

www.thememoryhole.org pa-police-reports04.pdf


(9) Numerous, credible ex-government officials are warning that the U.S. government might very well attack its own people to justify a further clampdown on civil rights and to justify additional wars

georgewashington.blogspot officials warn


(10) The tape of interviews of air traffic controllers on-duty on 9/11 was intentionally destroyed by crushing the cassette by hand, cutting the tape into little pieces, and then dropping the pieces in different trash cans around the building

nytimes.com archive
and
web.archive.org suntimes.com


(11) Investigators for the Congressional Joint Inquiry discovered that an FBI informant had hosted and rented a room to two hijackers in 2000 and that, when the Inquiry sought to interview the informant, the FBI refused outright, and then hid him in an unknown location, and that a high-level FBI official stated these blocking maneuvers were undertaken under orders from the White House

www.buzzflash.coml


(12) A retired Air Force Colonel who flew over 100 combat missions and was the director of the Star Wars defense program under both Republican and Democratic administrations (and a member of Scholars for 9/11 Truth) recently said:


"If our government had merely done nothing, and allowed normal procedures to happen on that morning of 9/11, the twin towers would still be standing, and thousands of dead Americans would still be alive. That is treason!"

www.exerscape.com bowman-interview.mp3


(13) Recently declassified documents show that in the 1960's, the American Joint Chiefs of Staff signed off on a plan to blow up AMERICAN airplanes (using an elaborate plan involving the switching of airplanes), and also committing terrorist murders against U.S. citizens on American soil, and then blaming it on the Cubans in order to justify an invasion of Cuba

abcnews.go.com story
and
www.gwu.edu northwoods.pdf


(14) The Secret Service, which is highly trained to whisk the president away from danger and to a secure location in the event of a threat, breached all standard procedures and allowed President Bush to remain at a highly-publicized location for 25 minutes after it was known that the nation was under attack

whatreallyhappened.com 9-11secretservice


(15) The U.S. defense agency responsible for protecting the U.S. had run drills for several years of planes being used as weapons against the World Trade Center and other U.S. high-profile buildings, and "numerous types of civilian and military aircraft were used as mock hijacked aircraft". In other words, drills using REAL AIRCRAFT simulating terrorist attacks crashing jets into buildings, including the twin towers, were run

usatoday news norad


(16) The military had also conducted drills of planes crashing into the Pentagon

mdw.army.mil Contingency_Planning_Photos


(17) On the morning of 9/11, 5 war games and terror drills were being conducted by several U.S. defense agencies, including one "live fly" exercise using REAL planes. And the drills apparently included the injection of false "radar blips" onto the screens of air traffic controllers

911truth.org article
and
fromthewilderness.com mckinney_transcript
or
spiegltech.com /McKinney2.rm (6 minutes and 12 seconds into the video);
fromthewilderness.com_simplify_case


(18) The government was running a simulation of a plane crashing into a building on the morning of 9/11

boston.com news_plane_exercise


(19) While the government has consistently stated that it did not know where the aircraft were before they struck, the Secretary of Transportation testified before the 9/11 Commission that Vice President Cheney monitored flight 77 for many miles as it approached the Pentagon

911truthmovement.org hamilton_win.wmv


(20) A third world trade center building, called building 7, collapsed on the afternoon of 9/11, but was never hit by plane, fell at the same speed as if there were no floors or walls to cause resistance, contained only small fires before the collapse, and became the first steel-frame building in history to collapse due to fire alone

www.wtc7.net



http://www.st911.org/

[Mr.Vicchio]

One reason to dismiss the above:

It makes sense only if you believe the government could actually pull it all off, and you could actually demolish TWO high Rises (setting explosives that precise without ANYONE noticeing it happenening) and then fly two air liners into them in such way as to not upset the explosives all ready there....


Just how many things would have to go RIGHT for this plot to work? Thousands.

How many for the Terrorist story to have worked? 4.

1000's Vs. 4...

I'll play the odds

[tivodan1116]

It's Ockham's Razor...

What is the more likely explanation? That 20 people that hate America hijacked planes and roughly guided them into buildings, or that the federal government could think of no better way to convince the people to do "something" (because these idiot 9/11 conspirators never give a concrete REASON for this), so they orchestrated a massive plot that included making planes and people disapper, killing thousands of Americans, planting bombs in buildings over several MONTHS (it takes months of planning and several weeks of laying explosives to take down even a small building) with no one noticing, etc etc etc.

You insult every thinking human being when you accuse the government of committing terrorist attacks on 9/11.

[Osborn F Enready]

Tivo, Vic, put down the false insults.

Those who fear investigation, ignoring the actual facts, which Mike Rupert points out in his book so clearly, are the true enemies.

The American Government has had PLANS IN THE PAST OF DOWNING PASSENGER AIRCRAFT TO BLAME ON OTHER GOVERNMENTS, TO INCITE WAR.

It is called operation "Northwoods".
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/northwoods.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods
http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/Northwoods.html


Keep on ignoring the facts.....

[saif]

"You insult every thinking human being when you accuse the government of committing terrorist attacks on 9/11."

Listen I know its early in the moring and that you may have had a few too many cups of coffee, but at no point in that post did I affirm its contents.. I felt that in any issue that has such vast implications it would be thought provoking to examine this chain of reports. And to say that I, or anyone for that matter, could possibly "insult every thinking human being when you accuse the government of committing terrorist attacks on 9/11." is the most ridiculuous thing I have ever read on this site. Thats not an insult it is the truth. Listen, Has their never been in our governments history any type of conspiracy?

[Mr.Vicchio]

Quote by: Osborn F Enready Tivo, Vic, put down the false insults. Those who fear investigation, ignoring the actual facts, which Mike Rupert points out in his book so clearly, are the true enemies. The American Government has had PLANS IN THE PAST OF DOWNING PASSENGER AIRCRAFT TO BLAME ON OTHER GOVERNMENTS, TO INCITE WAR. It is called operation "Northwoods". http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/northwoods.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/Northwoods.html Keep on ignoring the facts.....

I don't fear investigation, I don't fear this, I find it amaizng that any rationale human could make that giant leap. I blame it on one thing, people can't rationalize reality, so they make thier own.

That's really all this is. Just like the "We never went to the moon" crowd, this theory sounds great till you shine a little logic, and common sense on it.

But hey, if it makes you feel better to believe in all this, by all means, do it.

[Osborn F Enready]

So are you denying that the Department of Defense actually proposed this idea as NORTHWOODS documents, CLEARLY SHOW?

Is it wrong to view a government as criminal, if you know it has in the past, and present, committed, or discussed committing "heinous crimes" and then using those crimes to manipulate the fear of Americans to go to war?

[RickSp]

A string of links to conspiracy sites does not an argument make. The absurdist claims about invisible demolition teams wiring two major buildings in a large city and then having two large planes fly into exactly the right spots by remote control or some other nonsense is fine if you are fond of fantasy. I saw the fire from the first plane and saw the second plane hit. And I have been called all sorts of names by the conspiracy fantacists because I believe what I saw with my own eyes.

If anyone wishes to be so gullible to believe all this conspiracy crap instead of the evidence of what actually happened, that is their business.

[Keith Hamburger]

Quote by: RickSp A string of links to conspiracy sites does not an argument make. The absurdist claims about invisible demolition teams wiring two major buildings in a large city and then having two large planes fly into exactly the right spots by remote control or some other nonsense is fine if you are fond of fantasy. I saw the fire from the first plane and saw the second plane hit. And I have been called all sorts of names by the conspiracy fantacists because I believe what I saw with my own eyes. If anyone wishes to be so gullible to believe all this conspiracy crap instead of the evidence of what actually happened, that is their business.

Personally, I think I've heard most all of the theories.

Do I believe that our government actively set charges in the buildings and piloted aircraft by remote control to fly into those buildings? No.

Do I believe that it was all the work of 19 men in four airplanes and our government has told us the whole truth about what they know about that day? No.

The real truth is somewhere in between. The government is hiding so much from the American people in regards to what happened on 9-11 that it is no surprise that such conspiracy theories have arisen. From my point of view no one has all the pieces put together in such a way as to have the answer to what took place. But, all of this things are points of evidence to show that what we have been told as the "official story" isn't the truth. That is the value of these conspiracy arguments, that they point out that we don't really know what happened on 9-11 and that our government is hiding information from us.

So, beyond the initial quesitons above ...

Has the government hidden information about what happened on 9-11 and twisted the "official story" to their advantage? YES!

Is there a possiblity that someone in our government at least allowed, with at least limited foreknowledge, 9-11 to happen? YES!

Keith

[Sandy]

The assumption that the Federal Government planned and executed 911 is ridiculous! A small group of terrorists could have planted explosives in the twin tower buildings at any time in the last 15 years. The motives for this actions have been exposed in many books. None of the authors or film makers that came to the same conclusions were part of the federal govertnment. It would have been possible for an organization such as the PNAC put together plans for the final assult on September 11.

The last bit of information on the subject can be found in a DVD LOOSE CHANGE 2nd Edition which explains who benefited financially from the attacks. There was also a mention of gold bullion that was stashed in the basement of Building 7 that was missing when the do

[Sandy]

cat stepped on the keyboard.....

when the dozers cleared the debris under 7, the vault was empty. How did these planes get so close to D.C.? Cheney scheduled a test of the NORAL system that very morning. So it figures that on the morning of 911 a number of Administration members were aware and waiting for the planes. It would take one truck and one workman to remove the video cameras from around the Pentagon so that there would be no evidence that it was not a plane but a missile drone that hit the building.

I point to the PNAC because of a statement they made months before the attack. Their plans for a one world order were complicated but all they needed "was another Pearl Harbor" to pull of their Empire building plans.

Every investigator worth his salt will collect evidence including motive and availability and then zero in on the perpetrator. A war with Iraq was one huge motive and a fear that oil had hit its peak and America had to get what was left of the supply.

The one world order came out of Bush 41's platform and it wouldn't surprise me to see him sacrifice his less than bright son for the chance at a final development.

There is no doubt that if this were proven, America would fall on its ass! However, our beloved nation is slowing sinking into madness anyway, so. I wonder if it wouldn't be better to expose the weakness in our government and try to start over. If we continue to allow Bush to pick and choose what we must live with, our American spirit might be drained out of us.

We should demand that the truth about 911 be exposed and then prosecute the guilty bastards and start over. We can only heal our wounds through a cleansing exposure.

There is no way our govrernment as a whole knew about 911. We simply don't have this kind of teamwork possible.

[Milton Bradley]

The government is able to keep secrets, and I will provide some examples. The Manhattan Project, the Stealth Fighter, and Stealth Bomber, Operation Northwoods are all good examples of secrecy staying intact because of military compartmentalization. Only the people who "need to know" are ever let in on the total plan, and that is how the secrets are kept with so many players in the game.


Ironically, Operation Northwoods was only disovered by using the Freedom of Information Act to investigate another conspiracy, the Kenedy assasination.


So Bush does not have to be all powerful, or all knowing, he just has to be in charge.

[RickSp]

Quote by: Keith Hamburger Is there a possiblity that someone in our government at least allowed, with at least limited foreknowledge, 9-11 to happen? YES! Keith

I don't necessarily disagree with that. Indeed, I think there is pretty good evidence that the Israelis at least had foreknowledge. That being said, all the nonsense about thermite bombs and remote control airplanes does far more to obscure these issues than to shed light on them.

[Osborn F Enready]

Rick said: I don't necessarily disagree with that. Indeed, I think there is pretty good evidence that the Israelis at least had foreknowledge. That being said, all the nonsense about thermite bombs and remote control airplanes does far more to obscure these issues than to shed light on them.

I say:
Hmmmm, maybe you should clarify exactly then, what you DONT agree with........ instead you just blanket label all conspiracies.............AS USUAL..

And you wonder why I always accuse you of being a fan of "big gubbmint." LOL

[Milton Bradley]

Quote by: RickSp I don't necessarily disagree with that. Indeed, I think there is pretty good evidence that the Israelis at least had foreknowledge. That being said, all the nonsense about thermite bombs and remote control airplanes does far more to obscure these issues than to shed light on them.

The terrorists are just the scapegoats on which to pin the blame, the explosives were the insurance that the job would be done correctly. ( unlike that failed 1993 attempt ) Wouldn't want the investors to suffer the burden of having to pay to tear those buildings down the old fashined way. ( As we have seen, a typical demolition by explosives in such cramped quarters would have caused major collateral damage to the surrounding buildings, and would have required a whole seperate insurance policy, if not a completely different method of removal. ) Using the "enemy attck" scenario where the buildings "crash to the ground", the taxpayer foots the bill, ( both directly, and through increased insuance premiums ) and the poor investors go home to babysit their trust funds. The attack scenario also helps to forward their foreign policy agenda.


If it weren't for all of the other pieces of the conspiracy puzzle looking like a more plausible explanation, your theory might be easier to swallow.


While I won't attempt to speak for others, I would wager that none of the conspiracy camp would deny that those Muslim terrorists wanted to attack the US, in fact, I would tell you that many more wait in the wings to attack at any other opportunity that presents itself, but only because I know a bit about my countries foreign policy, and why those in Washington don't feel secure in their own country any more. They have cultivated these enemies for themselves.

[PatrickHenry]

Watch Loose Change, a video about the controlled demolition of the WTC:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...62628848&q=911
Right click, Save as...
Good stuff on the other "anomalies" in the official story, too.

[RickSp]

Quote by: Osborn F Enready I say: Hmmmm, maybe you should clarify exactly then, what you DONT agree with........ instead you just blanket label all conspiracies.............AS USUAL.. And you wonder why I always accuse you of being a fan of "big gubbmint." LOL

I guess you didn't notice that I was very specific as to what I found ridiculous. Look for the words "thermite" and "remote control." Sigh.

And anyone who accuses me of a being a fan of big government is probably also the sort who would suggest bringing a gun to a peace rally. That says about enough, as far as I am concerned.

[Osborn F Enready]

Rick said: And anyone who accuses me of a being a fan of big government is probably also the sort who would suggest bringing a gun to a peace rally.

I say:
You gonna keep beating on that dead horse of misunderstanding?

Thermite is QUITE plausible, while I personally don't believe as much of the "remote control" ideas. Investigation would prove right RIGHT and wrong WRONG.

We haven't seen that, so why aren't you for MORE investigation?

[mlingley]

9/11 is a whitewash.

Get used to it.

Shit will hit the fan.

[jacko]

i think that it is quite likly that the planes where not the only thing that blew up the buldings but if so why where there none near the wite house it may be hard to get them there but was that not a very importent target?