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Osborn F Enready · Apr 12, 2006, 10:27 am

How many of you out there have read "Mike Ruperts" book "Crossing the Rubicon"?
http://btobsearch.barnesandnoble.com...65715400&pwb=1

Everyone out there, who criticizes and attempts to marginalize the various "conspiracy theories" and their authors, I have a challenge for you.

Ruperts book is out there, both NEW and USED. For a 500 PAGE non-fiction, it is LOW priced at around $20.00 New as high as $40.00. Used, it can be had for less than $10.00 if you shop around.

I challenge you people, to invest that small amount of money in introspection and skepticism of your own ideals and beliefs. TEST YOUR METTLE! Put your theories and ideologies to the TEST, and read one of the best compiled, most highly referenced non-fictions about conspiracy and how it is affecting us RIGHT NOW. (over 900 footnotes)

I, am DARING YOU ALL, to challenge your own beliefs and thoughts, as well as your INFORMATION that you use to base those things, by reading the facts presented by the "other side".

I make this challenge ESPECIALLY to people such as Vicchio, WestCoastDog, Idlmaniac, BugsBunny, etc. I like all you guys, and value your debate, which is why I ask you (especially Bugs) to read this book, and come back and inform us if your opinions have changed even a little, if at all.

Worse case scenario, you buy it new, sell it used, and don't like it.
Best case scenario, you buy it used, value it for what it is, and change your life.

I anxiously await a response from anyone who has, or has not read the book. Thanks...

PatrickHenry · Apr 12, 2006, 04:03 pm

I probably read it before anyone else on this site. Except possibly Sandy...

It didn't change my life, that happened before.

But Ruppert's book IS comprehensive on the background of the 9/11 events.

My opinion? Most of those fellows won't read BOOKS. And especially books they suspect may not coincide with their worldview... but who knows?

Maybe a better tactic, Osborn: ask people to watch 9/11:The Road to Tyranny, by Alex Jones

Milton Bradley · Apr 12, 2006, 04:21 pm

Where does one procure a copy of that Patrick? Prison Planet?

PatrickHenry · Apr 12, 2006, 04:33 pm

Try ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ALEX-JONES-9-11-...QQcmdZViewItem

Milton Bradley · Apr 12, 2006, 04:57 pm

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Quote by: PatrickHenry

Try ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ALEX-JONES-9-11-...QQcmdZViewItem

Ah, it's actually been published by some brave soul.

Thanks Pat.

Autolykos · Apr 12, 2006, 10:35 pm

Please delete this message -- wrong forum!

Milton Bradley · Apr 13, 2006, 06:34 am

I noticed Crossing The Rubicon was published in Canada, and the author actually thanked the Canadian company in his foreward.

I wonder if he was having trouble finding a publisher here in the States? Wouldn't surprise me in the least.

PatrickHenry · Apr 13, 2006, 01:33 pm

Thank goodness for Canada. Ostrovsky's book on the Mossad was published over there: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/097...Fencoding=UTF8

gr8fuldaniel · Apr 13, 2006, 02:45 pm

Quote:

Quote by: Milton Bradley

Where does one procure a copy of that Patrick? Prison Planet?

I have The Masters of Terror Exposed by Alex Jones.

Quote:

Link

Blows Sept 11th Wide Open with the Latest Revelations!!!

In two hours, Alex Jones reveals the Globalists' master plan for world domination. In this powerful expose, Jones explains why the elite are using manufactured terrorism to drive the populations into accepting tyranny. The Masters of Terror details the execution of the September 11th attacks and the ensuing whitewash, the cashless society control-grid, implanted microchips, mind-control, militarization of police, concentration camps, foreign troops massing on US soil, the USA Patriot Act, and Homeland Security taking over the states.

You want to trade copies Patrick?
Jones encourages people to make copies and hand them out. I dont see any harm in swapping. I could send MB a copy if you pay S&H and a buck for the blank tape.

Osborn F Enready · Apr 13, 2006, 02:48 pm

That is a great offer Dan, and I or Milton would love to take you up on that.

Has anyone purchased, or viewed "Red Cell" the videotape, by Richard Marcinko?

It actually shows several scenes as they easily defeat U.S. Military Base security, and make a mockery of our National Defense, which is why they withchunted him.

PatrickHenry · Apr 13, 2006, 03:32 pm

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Quote by: gr8fuldaniel

You want to trade copies Patrick?
Jones encourages people to make copies and hand them out. I dont see any harm in swapping. I could send MB a copy if you pay S&H and a buck for the blank tape.

Shoot, as cheap as 9/11: The Road to Tyranny is on ebay, I could just buy it and have it drop-shipped to ya'. That DVD was instrumental in the crystallization of my present POV on Federal tyranny.

As for Ruppert's book, it is selling from Amazon associates for under $14.50 new, right now...

RickSp · Apr 13, 2006, 04:19 pm

I've read Ruppert's wild-assed ramblings about the Kennedy assassination and Peak Oil and remote controlled Boeings. Is it likely that I will waste my dollars or my time reading more of his grand conspiracy theories? I probably don't need to answer that one.

gr8fuldaniel · Apr 13, 2006, 05:30 pm

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Quote by: PH

Shoot, as cheap as 9/11: The Road to Tyranny is on ebay, I could just buy it and have it drop-shipped to ya'.

Oh, yeah I see that now. $1.50 + $2.50 S&H is cheaper than I could do. They must do bulk shipping and packaging. I think I paid 5.00 to ship a VCR tape before.

PatrickHenry · Apr 13, 2006, 06:03 pm

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Quote by: RickSp

I've read Ruppert's wild-assed ramblings about the Kennedy assassination and Peak Oil and remote controlled Boeings. Is it likely that I will waste my dollars or my time reading more of his grand conspiracy theories? I probably don't need to answer that one.

Don't bother, Rick. You're too far gone into the official conspiracy story...

RickSp · Apr 13, 2006, 08:06 pm

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Quote by: PatrickHenry

Don't bother, Rick. You're too far gone into the official conspiracy story...

Sure Patrick. Roswell is better documented than your fantasies.

Athena · Apr 13, 2006, 08:33 pm

Here is another book you might want to add your reading list:

Quote:

Since 1991, the United States has staged four wars using depleted uranium weaponry, illegal under all international treaties, conventions and agreements, as well as under the US military law. The continued use of this illegal radioactive weaponry, which has already contaminated vast regions with low level radiation and will contaminate other parts of the world over time, is indeed a world affair and an international issue. The deeper purpose is revealed by comparing regions now contaminated with depleted uranium - from Egypt, the Middle East, Central Asia and the northern half of India - to the US geostrategic imperatives described in Zbigniew Brzezinski's 1997 book The Grand Chessboard.

I was wanting to deny our use of dirty bombs, but found the above while googling the Trojan Nuclean Plant for a friend. I am thinking perhaps we need to form a commune where we can pool our energies. But shit sometimes I am so paranoid! I think right, let's all get together and make ourselves an easy target, like the Dividian Compound. That might not be a smart thing to do either, but I am starting to really dislike being alone and powerless. We gave Israel the first nuclear weapons, planting the arms race in the mid east. Like hello, how f------ stupid was that? I hate the leadership that took us down this path!

RVonse · Apr 13, 2006, 09:15 pm

Athen,
I haven't had the opportuntity to read any of these books but can you tell me what their motivation would be for the military to be using radioctive weapons? Why do they do it? Just curious.

Technosoul · Apr 13, 2006, 09:56 pm

They got a DVD of his lectures on those topics

http://liberationvideo.com/details.html?DVDSKU=14

Frostbite · Apr 14, 2006, 12:00 am

Uranium was also found in the drinking water and urine of civilians in Eastern Afghanistan
it was used in the Gulf war also ..... I can't even begin to describe how I feel !
such morons !

BTW I found this link somewhat interesting ____ [post]http://www.mindfully.org/Nucs/2004/DU-Trojan-Horse1jul04.htm[/post]

rmnunez · Apr 14, 2006, 12:55 am

Its just another rant on DU, will you guys ever let up? Don't you realize this stuff is of rather limited use? Yes, it does seep into groundwater and can be lethal in adequate dossages, but this is coating on armour piercing weapons, it usually is only deployed against massed armour. It can pulverize on impact (when it strikes armour) but the projectiles are like fat bullets, M-60 rounds in special machine guns often in helicopters, the Warthogs and souped-up C-130s in close air support roles. Its not something as ubiquitous as the article suggests and its a great way to recycle.

Apr 12, 2006, 10:27 am	#1 (permalink) (top)
Osborn F Enready Principled Observer Location: Toledo, Ohio Posts: 13,873	Official CHALLENGE How many of you out there have read "Mike Ruperts" book "Crossing the Rubicon"? http://btobsearch.barnesandnoble.com...65715400&pwb=1 Everyone out there, who criticizes and attempts to marginalize the various "conspiracy theories" and their authors, I have a challenge for you. Ruperts book is out there, both NEW and USED. For a 500 PAGE non-fiction, it is LOW priced at around $20.00 New as high as $40.00. Used, it can be had for less than $10.00 if you shop around. I challenge you people, to invest that small amount of money in introspection and skepticism of your own ideals and beliefs. TEST YOUR METTLE! Put your theories and ideologies to the TEST, and read one of the best compiled, most highly referenced non-fictions about conspiracy and how it is affecting us RIGHT NOW. (over 900 footnotes) I, am DARING YOU ALL, to challenge your own beliefs and thoughts, as well as your INFORMATION that you use to base those things, by reading the facts presented by the "other side". I make this challenge ESPECIALLY to people such as Vicchio, WestCoastDog, Idlmaniac, BugsBunny, etc. I like all you guys, and value your debate, which is why I ask you (especially Bugs) to read this book, and come back and inform us if your opinions have changed even a little, if at all. Worse case scenario, you buy it new, sell it used, and don't like it. Best case scenario, you buy it used, value it for what it is, and change your life. I anxiously await a response from anyone who has, or has not read the book. Thanks... Petition of Redress of Grievances: http://www.givemeliberty.org/default.htm Canadian Lawsuit Against Their National Banks: http://www.freewebs.com/classaction/ Osborn F. Enready Last edited by Osborn F Enready; Apr 12, 2006 at 10:49 am.

Apr 12, 2006, 04:03 pm	#2 (permalink) (top)
PatrickHenry 9/11: Inside Job Location: Hawai'i, Big Island Posts: 10,437	I probably read it before anyone else on this site. Except possibly Sandy... It didn't change my life, that happened before. But Ruppert's book IS comprehensive on the background of the 9/11 events. My opinion? Most of those fellows won't read BOOKS. And especially books they suspect may not coincide with their worldview... but who knows? Maybe a better tactic, Osborn: ask people to watch 9/11:The Road to Tyranny, by Alex Jones "Arms in the hands of the citizens may be used at individual discretion for the defense of the country, the overthrow of tyranny or private self-defense." -- John Adams

Apr 12, 2006, 04:33 pm	#4 (permalink) (top)
PatrickHenry 9/11: Inside Job Location: Hawai'i, Big Island Posts: 10,437	Try ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ALEX-JONES-9-11-...QQcmdZViewItem "Arms in the hands of the citizens may be used at individual discretion for the defense of the country, the overthrow of tyranny or private self-defense." -- John Adams

Apr 13, 2006, 01:33 pm	#8 (permalink) (top)
PatrickHenry 9/11: Inside Job Location: Hawai'i, Big Island Posts: 10,437	Thank goodness for Canada. Ostrovsky's book on the Mossad was published over there: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/097...Fencoding=UTF8 "Arms in the hands of the citizens may be used at individual discretion for the defense of the country, the overthrow of tyranny or private self-defense." -- John Adams

Apr 13, 2006, 02:48 pm	#10 (permalink) (top)
Osborn F Enready Principled Observer Location: Toledo, Ohio Posts: 13,873	That is a great offer Dan, and I or Milton would love to take you up on that. Has anyone purchased, or viewed "Red Cell" the videotape, by Richard Marcinko? It actually shows several scenes as they easily defeat U.S. Military Base security, and make a mockery of our National Defense, which is why they withchunted him. Petition of Redress of Grievances: http://www.givemeliberty.org/default.htm Canadian Lawsuit Against Their National Banks: http://www.freewebs.com/classaction/ Osborn F. Enready

Apr 12, 2006, 04:21 pm	#3 (permalink) (top)
Milton Bradley BANNED Location: Ohio Province, Rep. of Comerica Posts: 7,320	Where does one procure a copy of that Patrick? Prison Planet?

Apr 12, 2006, 10:35 pm	#6 (permalink) (top)
Autolykos Logical Phallussy Location: In your internets. Posts: 2,991	Please delete this message -- wrong forum!

Apr 13, 2006, 06:34 am	#7 (permalink) (top)
Milton Bradley BANNED Location: Ohio Province, Rep. of Comerica Posts: 7,320	I noticed Crossing The Rubicon was published in Canada, and the author actually thanked the Canadian company in his foreward. I wonder if he was having trouble finding a publisher here in the States? Wouldn't surprise me in the least.

Apr 13, 2006, 04:19 pm	#12 (permalink) (top)
RickSp Volcanic Erupter Posts: 9,491	I've read Ruppert's wild-assed ramblings about the Kennedy assassination and Peak Oil and remote controlled Boeings. Is it likely that I will waste my dollars or my time reading more of his grand conspiracy theories? I probably don't need to answer that one. Rick "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." Sinclair Lewis

Apr 13, 2006, 09:15 pm	#17 (permalink) (top)
RVonse Igneous Magma Posts: 563	Athen, I haven't had the opportuntity to read any of these books but can you tell me what their motivation would be for the military to be using radioctive weapons? Why do they do it? Just curious.

Apr 13, 2006, 09:56 pm	#18 (permalink) (top)
Technosoul Volcanic Erupter Posts: 8,663	They got a DVD of his lectures on those topics http://liberationvideo.com/details.html?DVDSKU=14

Apr 14, 2006, 12:00 am	#19 (permalink) (top)
Frostbite Sedimentary Rock Posts: 5	Uranium was also found in the drinking water and urine of civilians in Eastern Afghanistan it was used in the Gulf war also ..... I can't even begin to describe how I feel ! such morons ! BTW I found this link somewhat interesting ____ [post]http://www.mindfully.org/Nucs/2004/DU-Trojan-Horse1jul04.htm[/post]

Apr 14, 2006, 12:55 am	#20 (permalink) (top)
rmnunez Volcanic Erupter Location: Mexico City Posts: 4,772	Its just another rant on DU, will you guys ever let up? Don't you realize this stuff is of rather limited use? Yes, it does seep into groundwater and can be lethal in adequate dossages, but this is coating on armour piercing weapons, it usually is only deployed against massed armour. It can pulverize on impact (when it strikes armour) but the projectiles are like fat bullets, M-60 rounds in special machine guns often in helicopters, the Warthogs and souped-up C-130s in close air support roles. Its not something as ubiquitous as the article suggests and its a great way to recycle. Et semel emissum volat irrevocabile verbum. Raúl M. Núñez Sheriff Last edited by rmnunez; Apr 14, 2006 at 12:58 am.