Why Do Arabs Say the Jews Control the United States???

[GHook93]

I never understand this.

1) There are only 10 Million Jew through out the entire country. That is less than 1% of the population.
2) The Jews make up a very small population of the American CEOs and business owners.
3) There has never been a Jewish President, Vice President or Speaker of the House.
4) There have only been a handful of Jewish Senators, Attorney Generals, House Reps, Governors etc.
5) There has never been a high ranking Jewish commander of any branch of the military.
6) The mass-media, like Ruppert-Muddock, are not owned or controlled by Jews.
7) The Jewish vote affects only one state, New York, and is still not the most important segment of that state.
8) The vast majority of the TV and movie producers are not Jewish.
9) While many Jews work in the financial sectar, the Jew are not the majority holders of any of the major banks in America
10) The Jew don't control any of the credit bureaus.
11) The Jews make up a tiny portion of the police force and military.
12) The newspapers are not Jewish owned and the majority of news reporters and writers are not Jewish.

So where does this idea of a Jewish controlled American come from?

[ShOuLdEr]

umm how about you provide some evidence backing the Arabs claim...and using "Arabs" is quite general....also where did you get your information for your 1-12 reasons why they don't??

[tinybear]

Well, that's why I say the Jews are very astute. They control everything, but show no signs of doing so. :)

[Mr.Vicchio]

Blaming Jews for whatever aliment you want to has been an historical game, from the ancient days until today. Hitler made great use of this in his rise to power, and Islam has had an historical hatred of Judiasm.

[jose]

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the thrust of US policy in the region derives almost entirely from domestic politics, and especially the activities of the ‘Israel Lobby’. Other special-interest groups have managed to skew foreign policy, but no lobby has managed to divert it as far from what the national interest would suggest, while simultaneously convincing Americans that US interests and those of the other country – in this case, Israel – are essentially identical.

Since the October War in 1973, Washington has provided Israel with a level of support dwarfing that given to any other state. It has been the largest annual recipient of direct economic and military assistance since 1976, and is the largest recipient in total since World War Two, to the tune of well over $140 billion (in 2004 dollars). Israel receives about $3 billion in direct assistance each year, roughly one-fifth of the foreign aid budget, and worth about $500 a year for every Israeli. This largesse is especially striking since Israel is now a wealthy industrial state with a per capita income roughly equal to that of South Korea or Spain.

http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/mear01_.html
John Mearsheimer is the Wendell Harrison Professor of Political Science at Chicago,
Stephen Walt is the Robert and Renee Belfer Professor of International Affairs at the Kennedy School of Government at Harvard.

[tinybear]

Funny thing: Don't the Jews and the Arabs share a common ancestor, i.e. Abraham?

[Nono]

Yeah, they both speak Semitic languages. So if you're anti-Semitic you are -- by definition -- anti-Arab.

Quote by: Vicchio Blaming Jews for whatever aliment you want to has been an historical game, from the ancient days until today

Food poisoning! Ah, Vicchio, the all-time spelling klutz.
Yet he has a point. We all need our scapegoat, don't we? The Jews in the West have the same traditional role as the Chinese in SE Asia.

Very unscientific of GHook to talk about "the Arabs". That said, it's also my observation that, as a culture, the Arabs are quite prone to fatuous conspiracy theories.
On the other hand, Jews are -- by necessity -- past masters at the art of lobbying.
The Israel lobby in the US definitely does wag the dog.
A bit more balance might be beneficial to all of us.

[shrike]

"Yeah, they both speak Semitic languages. So if you're anti-Semitic you are -- by definition -- anti-Arab"
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So if someone say that he is Anti/Pro American does he mean Mexico,Canada and Argentina?

[Milton Bradley]

Quote by: shrike "Yeah, they both speak Semitic languages. So if you're anti-Semitic you are -- by definition -- anti-Arab" ------------------------------------------ So if someone say that he is Anti/Pro American does he mean Mexica,Canada and Argentina?

Might as well, thats who will be getting some of the nuclear fallout.


Is there some unknown covenent between George Washington, and Pancho Villa we don't know about.

[Nono]

Quote by: shrike So if someone say that he is Anti/Pro American does he mean Mexico,Canada and Argentina?

Ah hell, shrike, learn to source your damn quotes, as I've told you endlessly dammit.
I was merely making a semantic point fer chrissakes.

Hey, here's something: http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/696503.html

Is incitement to murder legal in Israel? Does Israel enjoy the rule of law? Why isn't this bastard in jail?

[shrike]

Ah hell, shrike, learn to source your damn quotes, as I've told you endlessly dammit.
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I really dont know what are you talking i never seen this quote before.

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I was merely making a semantic point fer chrissakes
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Its exatly a semantics but it doesnt mean it is the true meaning of the word.Anti Semitsm is anti Jew.Its never used any other way.

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Is incitement to murder legal in Israel? Does Israel enjoy the rule of law? Why isn't this bastard in jail?
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I am sure that there will be investigation about.

[Athena]

Quote by: jose snip the thrust of US policy in the region derives almost entirely from domestic politics, and especially the activities of the ‘Israel Lobby’. Other special-interest groups have managed to skew foreign policy, but no lobby has managed to divert it as far from what the national interest would suggest, while simultaneously convincing Americans that US interests and those of the other country – in this case, Israel – are essentially identical. Since the October War in 1973, Washington has provided Israel with a level of support dwarfing that given to any other state. It has been the largest annual recipient of direct economic and military assistance since 1976, and is the largest recipient in total since World War Two, to the tune of well over $140 billion (in 2004 dollars). Israel receives about $3 billion in direct assistance each year, roughly one-fifth of the foreign aid budget, and worth about $500 a year for every Israeli. This largesse is especially striking since Israel is now a wealthy industrial state with a per capita income roughly equal to that of South Korea or Spain. http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/mear01_.html John Mearsheimer is the Wendell Harrison Professor of Political Science at Chicago, Stephen Walt is the Robert and Renee Belfer Professor of International Affairs at the Kennedy School of Government at Harvard.

And may I add to this, because of this close relationship with Israel, almost every news story coming out of the Irsaeli/ Palistinian (Arab) conflict, is presented with an Israel point of view. Furthermore, this relationship with essentially European Jews, lead books such as our encyclopedias, to present the history of Israel as something that just bloomed in the desert without dispossessing Palestinians of their homes and orchards, devastating every aspect of their lives, including their ability to move freely to live where they want and visit relatives. The so called democracy of the Israel is nothing as ours.

Then there are Zoinist Christians like Pat Robertson, asking for donations to airlift poor Jews from Germany to Israel, where they are put in government subsidized housing on land that is rightly the Palestinians, or left in the city in intolerable poverty. How would you like hundreds of very poor people sent to your state, or what was yours before the Jews took it? Then Pat shows the terrible poverty and asks for more money to care for these people, while complete ignoring the plight of the Palestinains who were driven from their land. Pat says only bad things of Palestinians and Muslims.

Yes, Palestinians were driven from their homes. They fled when the Israelis attacked a city of Palestinians and proceeded to massacre them. The Jews will tell you, the Palestinian fled because neighboring Arabs told them to leave, because they would attack the Jews. No, it was the Isrealis slughter of innocent and unarmed Palestinains that that caused them to flee, and they were not allowed to return, despite the UN saying people have the right to return. The killing of Palestinains did not stop.

Look at a map of Palestine and then say how these people scattered and separated into reservations on the worst land, can possibly have their own state.

Why claim the Jews control the US? because we only know only their point of view, and have committed ourselves to a holy war against Muslims. You know, those people who don't have the right values, and somehow were a threat to us, fifty years after the injustice of Israel, and the increased we support we gave Israel in the 70's as it has been our intent to control this region of the world.

Reagon, lied to us when he said we don't need to conserve oil. It was the Republican's party intent at this time to gain control of mid east oil, and it armed Israel to the teeth, and blocked every effort Palestinians made to get UN peacekeeper to protect them from Israel.
Britain, started this problem, and when the Zionist began attacking the British they withdrew knowing what was liking to happen. Now since the oil shortage that caused the recession of the Carter and Reagon years, the US has been trying to make the same land and resource grab the Britians made. What is wrong here is that US citizens believed Reagon, and some still think the US has all the oil it needs and it isn't oil that has the US sinking the last of its national wealth into securing control of mid east oil. We are in severe denial of reality, and are being badly mislead.

[phoenix_fire]

I need only cite the Iraqi minister of information, and then you will understand why nothing that proceeds from radical Muslims surprises me. Or has everyone forgotten that already?

Hate speech has never needed to be fully accurate. Most middle eastern Muslims hate Jews with a passion. Since america is intervening unfavorably against these people, it is a simple matter to further demonize the country by projecting the hatred of public enemy #1 onto a more distant and abstract foe.

[RickSp]

A better question may be not why do Jews control the US - they don't, but why Isreal seems to effectively hold sway over US foreign policy.

To acknowledge that the Israeli lobby has a disproportionate influence on the U S government is not being anti-Semetic, even if the Israeli lobby might suggest otherwise. A blind and unreasoning support for Israel is not limited to Jews. Many Americans are still seem caught up in the underdog legend of Isreal and there are large numbers of fundamentalists who support Isreal as part of it Apocalyptic worldview.

[Vee]

i seem to recall a rather important political jew in Richard Nixon's employ - kissinger

people from crawford, texas only make up a small percentage of the population, but only 1 has become the most powerful man in the world

statistics are irrelevant as far as politics are concerned

the vast majority of tv and movie producers are not jewish? that is complete hogwash

as far as them not being the leading creditors, bankers, etc...thats almost as equally preposterous

the jews make up a tiny portion of police and military, that I agree with. they prefer to push buttons in the background

[phoenix_fire]

Well, it seems that it is easier for most americans to support Israel because PALESTINE HATES THE US. I know you'll say that that's because of america's support for Israel, but for those of you complaining about the partisan nature of people today in this issue it is largely irrelevant which came first.

[shrike]

Quote by: Athena And may I add to this, because of this close relationship with Israel, almost every news story coming out of the Irsaeli/ Palistinian (Arab) conflict, is presented with an Israel point of view. .

Prove it. I think that most of the Media left-slanted therefore Pro-Palestinian. Here is two sites that proves my point.
WWW.CAMERA.ORG
http://honestreporting.com/

Quote by: Athena Furthermore, this relationship with essentially European Jews, lead books such as our encyclopedias, to present the history of Israel as something that just bloomed in the desert without dispossessing Palestinians of their homes and orchards, devastating every aspect of their lives, including their ability to move freely to live where they want and visit relatives. The so called democracy of the Israel is nothing as ours

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Again no sources. Anyway there was no orchards there like you falsely claim. There were some Arabs that were brought by Turkish land lords to work the land they owned.
Here is how Mark Twain describe the area before the Jews came.
"There is not a solitary village throughout its whole extent [valley of Jezreel] -- not for 30 miles in either direction... One may ride ten miles hereabouts and not see ten human beings. ... For the sort of solitude to make one dreary, come to Galilee ... Nazareth is forlorn ... Jericho lies a moldering ruin ... Bethlehem and Bethany, in their poverty and humiliation... untenanted by any living creature... A desolate country whose soil is rich enough, but is given over wholly to weeds ... a silent, mournful expanse ... a desolation ... We never saw a human being on the whole route ... Hardly a tree or shrub anywhere. Even the olive tree and the cactus, those fast friends of a worthless soil had almost deserted the country ... Of all the lands there are for dismal scenery Palestine must be the prince. The hills barren and dull, the valleys unsightly deserts [inhabited by] swarms of beggars with ghastly sores and malformations. Palestine sits in sackcloth and ashes ... desolate and unlovely ... "
http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/railto.../iahompag.html

Quote by: Athena Yes, Palestinians were driven from their homes. They fled when the Israelis attacked a city of Palestinians and proceeded to massacre them. The Jews will tell you, the Palestinian fled because neighboring Arabs told them to leave, because they would attack the Jews. No, it was the Isrealis slughter of innocent and unarmed Palestinains that that caused them to flee, and they were not allowed to return, despite the UN saying people have the right to return. The killing of Palestinains did not stop.

I thought it was Arabs who didn't accepted the UN decisions and attacked the new state.
Maybe you leave in alternate reality? Or you were dreaming about some UN decisions that have no legal power. Any way why should Israel honor UN decisions about Arabs when they not doing the same about Israel?

Quote by: Athena Look at a map of Palestine and then say how these people scattered and separated into reservations on the worst land, can possibly have their own state.

They choose their destiny themselves when they reject UN partition plan.

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Quote by: Athena Britain, started this problem, and when the Zionist began attacking the British they withdrew knowing what was liking to happen.

Again alternate reality
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerusalem_Riots_of_1947
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Uprising

[jose]

A smaller Haganah splinter group, the Irgun organization (also called by its Hebrew acronym Etzel), adopted a policy of terrorist attacks and revenge (including against civilians). Their actions, which included setting off bombs in public places, murdered hundreds of civilians.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Uprising
Thanks for that link shrek

[shrike]

Well it just proves that my sources are unbiased.Anyway it was a reaction to Palestinian violence nevertheless i think its wrong to kill civilians.

[GHook93]

Quote by: Vee i seem to recall a rather important political jew in Richard Nixon's employ - kissinger people from crawford, texas only make up a small percentage of the population, but only 1 has become the most powerful man in the world statistics are irrelevant as far as politics are concerned the vast majority of tv and movie producers are not jewish? that is complete hogwash as far as them not being the leading creditors, bankers, etc...thats almost as equally preposterous the jews make up a tiny portion of police and military, that I agree with. they prefer to push buttons in the background

I said only a few polician were jewish not that none were. But none of the heads have been. Yes there are a lot of Jewish Bankers and Actors, but the ones that own the large banks and media production company are predominately non-Jewish. Shit the majority of Low level bankers and actors are not Jewish. I am not talking about the Grunts in the military are not Jewish, I am talking about the button pushers like Collin Powel and others heads of the millitary.

This is not to say tha the the Jews don't have an impact on the government. Every segment of the population does. Hence the large Hispanic population is the main reason the border hasn't been closed. The Christian Conservatives are the reason gay marriage are outlawed. The black population is the reason for affirmative action.