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tilefish · Feb 13, 2006, 07:30 pm

I think it was wrong that Cheney did not disclose to the press the details of his accidentally shooting a hunting copanion. The fact that he waited for 20 hours and then let his host Katherine Armstrong (who BTW was on the board of directors for Haliburton) make the disclosure is wrong. If the guy who Cheney shot developes an infection and subsequently dies would Cheney face charges of involuntary man slaughter? Sorry a when the VIce president shoots somebody accidentlally that needs to reported the day it happens.

Morgan_Freeman · Feb 13, 2006, 07:31 pm

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Sorry a when the VIce president shoots somebody accidentlally that needs to reported the day it happens.

Why? I don't see how this is anyone's business.

RickSp · Feb 13, 2006, 07:34 pm

Politically the Bush administration was typically inept in handling the story. By going into immediate cover-up mode they shot themselves in the foot, so to speak.

tilefish · Feb 13, 2006, 08:01 pm

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Why? I don't see how this is anyone's business.

I would have to say your opinion is in the minority. CHris Matthews has just spent 50 minutes of his hour show talking about it.

Morgan_Freeman · Feb 13, 2006, 08:50 pm

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I would have to say your opinion is in the minority.

My opinion is usually in the minority. What's your point?

leftcider · Feb 13, 2006, 10:38 pm

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Politically the Bush administration was typically inept in handling the story. By going into immediate cover-up mode they shot themselves in the foot, so to speak.

Agreed, strategically it was probably an error for them to wait to disclose it. I don't think that he had any moral obligation to disclose this private matter to the public, however... why should it be? If criminal laws were found to be broken it would be another matter.

**Jack** · Feb 13, 2006, 10:44 pm

This isn't near as interesting as the Hamilton-Burr dual. There was a V.P. who could hit what he aimed at.

Rainbow · Feb 13, 2006, 11:22 pm

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Why? I don't see how this is anyone's business.

Here, it is why :
- to give people a chance to present their findings

By doing that, people would post tons of pages all over the Net, on a subject they are completely unfamiliar with, except for published reports, comments, ect.
Does it make sense ?
Who cares, since it makes people occupied and/or busy.
And that is the key :-)

What a pitty, Cheney does not hunt everyday.
Hospitals would make some extra, at least :-)

Now, I wait for :
- hunting and law experts , to lecture the whole nation on that subject.
That must be exciting :-)

Rainbow · Feb 13, 2006, 11:46 pm

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CHris Matthews has just spent 50 minutes of his hour show talking about it.

Who is Chris Matthews ?

tinybear · Feb 14, 2006, 03:03 am

So the guy accidentally shoots a hunting companion. Why make a mountain out of a molehill?

tilefish · Feb 14, 2006, 06:51 pm

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So the guy accidentally shoots a hunting companion. Why make a mountain out of a molehill?

It just shows how this administration handles situations to minimize there mishandling of the events. WMD's, Katrina, Abu Grab, Bogus victory landings on aircraft carriers and not to mention the hit men they enlist like the Swift Boat Boys! Frankly it really surprises me that the people on this supposed political board are so complacent aolut this story.

leftcider · Feb 14, 2006, 08:47 pm

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It just shows how this administration handles situations to minimize there mishandling of the events. WMD's, Katrina, Abu Grab, Bogus victory landings on aircraft carriers and not to mention the hit men they enlist like the Swift Boat Boys! Frankly it really surprises me that the people on this supposed political board are so complacent aolut this story.

Unlike the incidents that you mentioned, this effects no one outside of the individuals involved. It doesn't appear to be a criminal incident, and no charges are being pressed. Hunting accidents happen even among experienced individuals (who sometimes grow to be complacent). There are plenty of things to criticize this administration over, but I fail to see how we've been publically wronged by a 24 hour delay in hearing this story.

Apeman81 · Feb 14, 2006, 10:05 pm

By the media? Certainly not.

bishop · Feb 14, 2006, 10:07 pm

http://boston.craigslist.org/rnr/133998828.html

lili462 · Feb 14, 2006, 10:49 pm

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Why? I don't see how this is anyone's business.

it shouldnt be, but when your an elected official, its everyones business

Zeebadee · Feb 14, 2006, 10:57 pm

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Unlike the incidents that you mentioned, this effects no one outside of the individuals involved. It doesn't appear to be a criminal incident, and no charges are being pressed. Hunting accidents happen even among experienced individuals (who sometimes grow to be complacent). There are plenty of things to criticize this administration over, but I fail to see how we've been publically wronged by a 24 hour delay in hearing this story.

I heard today that White House press secretary Scott McClellan knew at the time of his Tuesday press conference that Harry Whittington had had a heart attack, news of which had not been released to the public at that time, and yet continued the charade that Whittington was in no danger from the shooting incident. I have not been able to confirm that, has anyone else? If true, wouldn't this constitute a direct and deliberate lie to the American people? Do you still see no effects outside of the individuals involved?

Morgan_Freeman · Feb 14, 2006, 11:13 pm

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it shouldnt be, but when your an elected official, its everyones business

Are you simply making an observation here, or are you stating an opinion?

ghost_stalker · Feb 15, 2006, 12:05 am

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Why? I don't see how this is anyone's business.

Exaclty, ppl need to stop being so nosy and ignore other psoples affairs.

lili462 · Feb 15, 2006, 12:22 am

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Are you simply making an observation here, or are you stating an opinion?

yes that is my opinion, they are elected officials and its accidents like this that prove how stupid some of out elected officials are..i dont know about you but quite frankly i dont prefer to have elected officials that can't follow simple hunting guidelines, what does that show of them? so yes it is our business. what about when clinton got a hummer, it was everyones business then.

another day · Feb 15, 2006, 12:42 am

Oh wow, it wasn't known until A FULL DAY after?? Oh my god they were really struggling to keep that one covered up hey. It's good the truth finally came to light after all these hours.

I mean, really this is a classic case of people creating a problem or media incident where there is none. Dick Cheney is a blind idiot who likes to "hunt" caged, farm raised small birds with a huge shotgun and he can't even get that right. Thats about all that can be drawn from this incident.

Feb 13, 2006, 07:30 pm	#1 (permalink) (top)
tilefish Molten Ash Posts: 84	Was Cheney hunting accident handled properly? I think it was wrong that Cheney did not disclose to the press the details of his accidentally shooting a hunting copanion. The fact that he waited for 20 hours and then let his host Katherine Armstrong (who BTW was on the board of directors for Haliburton) make the disclosure is wrong. If the guy who Cheney shot developes an infection and subsequently dies would Cheney face charges of involuntary man slaughter? Sorry a when the VIce president shoots somebody accidentlally that needs to reported the day it happens.

Feb 13, 2006, 07:34 pm	#3 (permalink) (top)
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Jack formerly Isherwood Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 13,741	This isn't near as interesting as the Hamilton-Burr dual. There was a V.P. who could hit what he aimed at. The Forum Rules Radical Atheist Heathen Queer Let's agree to respect each others views, no matter how wrong yours may be. (Ashleigh Brilliant)

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bishop moderat-e/o-r Location: boston Posts: 11,184	http://boston.craigslist.org/rnr/133998828.html hope for america... http://www.ronpaul2008.com/

Feb 14, 2006, 03:03 am	#10 (permalink) (top)
tinybear Volcanic Erupter Location: Hong Kong (for now) Posts: 7,085	So the guy accidentally shoots a hunting companion. Why make a mountain out of a molehill?

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Apeman81 Hot Lava Posts: 1,302	By the media? Certainly not.

Feb 15, 2006, 12:42 am	#20 (permalink) (top)
another day slipping sand Posts: 1,977	Oh wow, it wasn't known until A FULL DAY after?? Oh my god they were really struggling to keep that one covered up hey. It's good the truth finally came to light after all these hours. I mean, really this is a classic case of people creating a problem or media incident where there is none. Dick Cheney is a blind idiot who likes to "hunt" caged, farm raised small birds with a huge shotgun and he can't even get that right. Thats about all that can be drawn from this incident.