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Autolykos · Jan 25, 2006, 03:21 pm

I fail to see how the premise is false, Apeman. Although it has been shown that the Secret Service Uniformed Division has existed for over a century, it also seems that the PATRIOT Act entails an expansion of the division's powers. Otherwise, why would the language about the division's powers be changed? I'm no legal scholar, but I'll try to find out exactly what has changed, when I have the time (hopefully soon).

- Rob

xyzer · Jan 25, 2006, 06:40 pm

I agree with tivodan..It's no more than a retitling of the secret Service unit that already existed. It has a function and area of operation specifically delineated. It relieves the local cops of protecting the President and foreign dignataries and places of business.

Don't panic! I know the sensationalizing press has everyone stirred up with a new conspiracy every day or so. How about the Presidents "signing statements"? Has that one got everyone stirred up yet?

snake · Jan 25, 2006, 08:05 pm

Osbourn

No I dont blame uneducation of the people on their inability to see a grand conspiracy or coverup that does not exist. The reason that people dont care about the patriot act is because it does not change their lives in about anyway. If they are sending support to terrorist or talking on a phone about bombing the white house they have no reason to be concerned. I mean you tell me a case where someone was inproperly detained or rights were violated and I gaurentee they were doing something they were supposed to have.

Milton Bradley · May 3, 2008, 07:33 pm

Here is a perfect example of just the type of fascist authoritarian crap we were trying to warn people about.

toledoblade.com -- 23 arrested in raid on South Toledo motorcycle club

Quote:

Seventeen adults and six juveniles were arrested early Saturday at a South Toledo motorcycle club, Toledo police said.

Police raided the club at 555 Spencer St. at 3:30 a.m. with a "no knock" warrant. Two handguns, an unspecified amount of marijuana, prescription medication, and money was seized during the investigation.

Toledo police declined yesterday to say why the club was raided.

The arrests resulted in four felony and 24 misdemeanor charges.

That's the entire text of the article right there.

We saw something we didn't like, so we crushed it. Nevermind about the details, nothing to see here.

Hannity's America is looking more, and more like Hitler's Germany.

Jan 25, 2006, 06:40 pm	#22 (permalink) (top)
xyzer Liberated thinker Location: New Mexican Alps Posts: 2,042	I agree with tivodan..It's no more than a retitling of the secret Service unit that already existed. It has a function and area of operation specifically delineated. It relieves the local cops of protecting the President and foreign dignataries and places of business. Don't panic! I know the sensationalizing press has everyone stirred up with a new conspiracy every day or so. How about the Presidents "signing statements"? Has that one got everyone stirred up yet? Thus we play the fools with the time, and the spirits of the wise sit in the clouds and mock us.

Jan 25, 2006, 03:21 pm	#21 (permalink) (top)
Autolykos Logical Phallussy Location: In your internets. Posts: 2,991	I fail to see how the premise is false, Apeman. Although it has been shown that the Secret Service Uniformed Division has existed for over a century, it also seems that the PATRIOT Act entails an expansion of the division's powers. Otherwise, why would the language about the division's powers be changed? I'm no legal scholar, but I'll try to find out exactly what has changed, when I have the time (hopefully soon). - Rob

Jan 25, 2006, 08:05 pm	#23 (permalink) (top)
snake Molten Ash Posts: 34	Osbourn No I dont blame uneducation of the people on their inability to see a grand conspiracy or coverup that does not exist. The reason that people dont care about the patriot act is because it does not change their lives in about anyway. If they are sending support to terrorist or talking on a phone about bombing the white house they have no reason to be concerned. I mean you tell me a case where someone was inproperly detained or rights were violated and I gaurentee they were doing something they were supposed to have.