Bush team gasses the masses.

[Mr.Vicchio]

Well thank you Zee, that is far better and more productive then the wild claims of Saddam is Bush is Saddam.

There is a fine balance between regulation and over regulation.

Is the short form going allow harmful waste to slip through the cracks? Or just lower the burden on companies doing business?

I was the HazMat Petty Officer for my detachment, and let me tell ya something, sitting through an EPA review of how we did business, all the paperwork I had to do, was amazing, and we didn't have much. There was mountains of paperwork.. for a weather office. I can only imagine the horror it must be for a private company that works with chemicals.

[Osborn F Enready]

Vic said:
Hey Osborn, the law WASN'T broken, that's the part you don't get.

I say:
Yea, ok. Time will tell, and I am a patient man, for now. Wanna hedge a bet>?

[Milton Bradley]

Quote by: lsbskins1 Well, V. , you seem to believe that that 50.7 percent of the votes that GWB got gives him some overwhelming majority. We on that 48.3 percent "fringe" would like to beg to differ.

The obvious irony here is that a short time ago, the 50.7 percent of the vote was a "mandate of the people".


Now that Bush's popularity ratings are in the sewer, they don't much like addressing polls, or statistics. (Well, unless they are provided by O'Reilly, or Limbaugh, or Sean Hanity.)

[Technosoul]

Quote by: Zeebadee Uh, could you please explain the "self evident" part of that statement? Pollution isn't a problem here in this country? How is that "self evident"??

That is easy to explain, I made a typo error.

I should have written that Bush is of the opinon that pollution is not a self evident problem here in this country.

[xyzer]

No Vic, they will impeach on the laws he has broken

Osburn..please list the actual laws(note plural)that President Bush is alleged to have broken?

I think your posts lack specificity and so it's hard to counter tnem? Conyers and others of his ilk delight in releasing false statements designed to stir up the people. Remember during the election whaen he got the rumor started tha Bush was going to start up the draft again? Could it be that demagoguery is again in flower?

[Osborn F Enready]

xyz'er said:
Osburn..please list the actual laws(note plural)that President Bush is alleged to have broken?

I think your posts lack specificity and so it's hard to counter tnem? Conyers and others of his ilk delight in releasing false statements designed to stir up the people. Remember during the election whaen he got the rumor started tha Bush was going to start up the draft again? Could it be that demagoguery is again in flower?

I say:
Yea, me, Mr. Verbose, link ridden Osborn is not being specific..... LOL!!!

Take a look at any post I have STARTED, and then tell me I am not being specific. I have several posts on the laws Bush broke, and I have several links to a national petition for redress of grievance. I have several posts linking fact after fact, source after source, of factual constitutional infractions of presidents since the mid 1800's.

Spare me the laziness you are exhibiting, and search the posts yourself. I wouldn't want to be accused of derailing the thread.....

[Athena]

Quote by: Technosoul Your Chicken Little humor and making light of an important event does not really reduce nor does it solve the problem - the problem being mainly the Bush policy. I doubt if Bush knows diddle about mercury or any of the other problematic chemicals he has set forth to undo regulations for. Nor do I fully comprehend his motives for taking such actions, or if he found another source of phoney data that he uses to justify his objectives. It would seem somewhat self evident that polution is not a problem.

I doubt if Bush knows about anything other than getting along with the handful of people he associates with because that is the social position he was born into.

As for breaking laws, the only laws that really matter are the laws of nature. Excessive paper work is bad for business, and trying to police everything is insane. However, education for morality could make huge improvements in how we governing ourselves and do business. People shouldn't pee the swimming pool, or polute the soil or air upon which our lives depend. Where is the moral backbone that could restore trust in fellow man? We are technological smart but very unwise at the moment.

[Technosoul]

Quote by: Mr.Vicchio Well thank you Zee, that is far better and more productive then the wild claims of Saddam is Bush is Saddam. There is a fine balance between regulation and over regulation. Is the short form going allow harmful waste to slip through the cracks? Or just lower the burden on companies doing business? I was the HazMat Petty Officer for my detachment, and let me tell ya something, sitting through an EPA review of how we did business, all the paperwork I had to do, was amazing, and we didn't have much. There was mountains of paperwork.. for a weather office. I can only imagine the horror it must be for a private company that works with chemicals.

It was not a wild claim. Nothing wild or "way out in left field" about how much Bush and Saddam are alike. Same personality and so forth. Only difference was, is that Saddam was caught telling the truth and Bush was caught in a big fib, which resulted in more fib telling in an attempt to make the first fib sound justified.

What is the difference if you allowed England to come to your country with thier bio-chemical weapons and that resulted in the killing of the Kruds, or if you allow Dow Chemical Company to put lead in paint or to release deadly stuff into the air or elsewhere?
The end result is the same is it not - death, cancer, breathing problems, etc.

I only picked Dow out of the hat because their network is in the fore front when it comes to putting lobby money into removing those environmental regulations that are on the books. Now the government has always been known for having too much paperwork. even if you apply for welfare or whatever you will be spending a day filling out forms. I agree that sush unending paperwork is a pain in the butt. And no doubt very wasteful of taxpayer money. Perhaps someone intelligent can come up with a better alternative for paperwork where often the same data is repeated over and over.