Arnold's New Agenda - California politics.

[Cephus]

Quote by: Technosoul Liberals don't whine - they speak with wisdom about what needs to be done.

Like hell. There's a whole lotta liberal whining going on everywhere I look.

They might THINK they speak with wisdom, but it certainly doesn't look that way to people who don't share their philosophy.

[Zealot]

Quote by: Cephus Like hell. There's a whole lotta liberal whining going on everywhere I look. They might THINK they speak with wisdom, but it certainly doesn't look that way to people who don't share their philosophy.

Hey Cephus, right on man, I didn't expect that from you. Ever hear a liberal say something nice about America? Or the Pres.? Good job pal!

Looks like the Gov. got slapped in the mouth by God for his latest sell out.

[Cephus]

Quote by: Zealot Hey Cephus, right on man, I didn't expect that from you. Ever hear a liberal say something nice about America? Or the Pres.? Good job pal!

Don't get too happy with yourself, neo-cons like yourself are even worse for the most part.

Looks like the Gov. got slapped in the mouth by God for his latest sell out.

Ah yes, that's a good Christian attitude. Exactly what everyone has come to expect from you.

[Technosoul]

Quote by: Cephus Like hell. There's a whole lotta liberal whining going on everywhere I look. They might THINK they speak with wisdom, but it certainly doesn't look that way to people who don't share their philosophy.

You are making a blanket statement in a attempt to stereotype a group of individuals. In order for me to debate such a claim you need to give me some isolated examples of just what you are whining about concerning liberals.

I am sure some liberals also think that the right-wingers whine about a lot of things. Which they do. What some examples? Show me yours first.

For a long time now right wingers like that radio host - Rush Limbugercheese, has been claiming that liberals are crying and whining - like little babies that don't get their way,. that is hogwash and you know it. Just childish "name calling" that is designed to belittle those who know how to think correctly. Time to grow up and talk about individual issues point for point.

Technosoul.

[RVonse]

Quote by: SteveA it remains last among the 50 states. These poor ratings mean California must pay billions more in interest. )

I live in Missouri so I don't know a thing about California. But what I don't understand is how such a wealthy state can be so poor? My neighbor (who used to live in Los Angeles) tells me that his house would be worth at least 1 million dollars if he were still living in L.A. and we are in common middle class housing. I am told the inflated prices are even higher in San Francisco.

Just think for a moment consider how many 1 million dollar houses are located in that state. That alone should mean that California is worth a hell of a lot of wealth!

I don't get it.

[Technosoul]

Well, if you spend one million for a house that does not leave you much pocket change for normal shopping.

[Cephus]

Quote by: Technosoul I am sure some liberals also think that the right-wingers whine about a lot of things. Which they do. What some examples? Show me yours first.

I could give plenty of examples, but here's one that's on-topic for the current thread, since I wouldn't want to derail it: illegal immigration. Most liberals want to coddle, care for and protect illegal immigrants, give them welfare money, educate their children, give them free health care, and if you dare suggest we actually deport them, you get attacked. Illegal immigration is a huge topic in California, and one that no one is adequately doing anything about.

[Cephus]

Quote by: RVonse I live in Missouri so I don't know a thing about California. But what I don't understand is how such a wealthy state can be so poor? My neighbor (who used to live in Los Angeles) tells me that his house would be worth at least 1 million dollars if he were still living in L.A. and we are in common middle class housing. I am told the inflated prices are even higher in San Francisco. Just think for a moment consider how many 1 million dollar houses are located in that state. That alone should mean that California is worth a hell of a lot of wealth! I don't get it.

The vast majority of those homes aren't owned by Californians, they are owned by banks and they change hands regularly. It's a debt-based system that very few people ever really get out of. Housing in California right now is ludicrous, a house that might have cost $200k ten years ago now goes for a million and a lot of the people who are buying houses are being suckered by the mortgage companies and will end up defaulting on their loans in less than ten years.

When the people think that borrowing massive amounts of money with no clue how they'll ever pay it back is the norm, why is anyone surprised the government thinks the same way?